E-85 Fiasco with 2010 Buick Lucerne

It happend after I filled up with E85 and then drove it down to 3/4ths of a tank left. Then it sat for two days which is not normal. It gets driven every day. All I know is my mechanic got a lean engine code. They drained it and filled with regular gas and drove it for 20 miles and scanned again and everything is fine now. But still cared to death about driving it to Georgia tomorrow.
 
The corn grown in Delaware is not made into alcohol but given to chickens to make them flat and plump, so we can eat the chickens.

LOL. Id say the corn is better suited for chicken feed than fuel.

Don't be confused, there is lots of corn in the Midwest for all the animal feeding needs as well as ethanol. Not to mention the byproducts of ethanol can and are used as animal feed.
 
I do find it interesting that I never had this issue with the E85 until I filled up at a non-top tier station. Not that it had anything to do with it, but the station i went to is in a sketchy area, and I REALLY wonder how long that E85 sat in the tanks. For all I know it could have been there since November. God only knows if it was loaded with water. This, especially given there aren't a lot of E85 vehicles out there.
 
I do find it interesting that I never had this issue with the E85 until I filled up at a non-top tier station. Not that it had anything to do with it, but the station i went to is in a sketchy area, and I REALLY wonder how long that E85 sat in the tanks. For all I know it could have been there since November. God only knows if it was loaded with water. This, especially given there aren't a lot of E85 vehicles out there.
If you fill up a diesel engine with a CP4 pump with crappy diesel (water or dirt) and it gets to the CP4 pump it's $11K to fix all the issues. So water in E85 is no where close to a big deal as compared to a diesel engine.
 
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Well, it's probably prolific in part because it's heavily subsidized. It got $3.2B in 2024.
Where’s that data from? Ethanol hasn’t been subsidized since around 2010. Ethanol also destroyed the minimum income subsidy for framers. Subsidy’s for farming are all but dead thanks to ethanol.
 
Where’s that data from? Ethanol hasn’t been subsidized since around 2010.

I was referring to the corn reference in post 24.

https://usafacts.org/articles/federal-farm-subsidies-what-data-says/
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Not all corn is used for ethanol. One subsidy I know has been used in Midwestern areas is prevent plant due to Spring rains. The others are for conservation practices.

https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10339

Oil sucks up a lot of tax dollars as well. Quite a bit more…..this chart is the proposal to reduce. The total received was 757 billion in 2022. Source: https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fact-sheet-proposals-to-reduce-fossil-fuel-subsidies-january-2024

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We should probably take our banter elsewhere and not hijack this thread any further.
 
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I do find it interesting that I never had this issue with the E85 until I filled up at a non-top tier station. Not that it had anything to do with it, but the station i went to is in a sketchy area, and I REALLY wonder how long that E85 sat in the tanks. For all I know it could have been there since November. God only knows if it was loaded with water. This, especially given there aren't a lot of E85 vehicles out there.
I'm not familiar with your specific car but this is a pretty early flex fuel design. I could see how some of the sensing tech wasn't fully worked out back then and switchovers wouldn't be perfectly smooth.
Quality of the fuel really matters with ethanol as it is hygroscopic, don't get that at a mom&pop station.
Fuel filters are specific to flex fuel vehicles otherwise the glue used in the gasoline version of the fuel filter for your car will get ate up by the ethanol in your flex fuel and pieces of it will clog the fuel lines and injectors.
 
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