Lemon 2023 Nissan Frontier

Ok, I will play. How deep of a rabbit hole you want to go down?

If the manufacturer missed it and the dealership missed it, what is to say any so called independent inspection also misses it? Do we get another inspection to the inspection and so forth?

I get it, things get missed but we can play Captain Hindsight all day here when the reality is just about everybody takes the CPO on face value because the extended warranty that goes with it will cover such things.

Disingenuous to sit on a high horse critiquing people for what they should have done when most reasonable people would do the same.

You know, in a previous post, I did point out that the PPO might not have caught the frame issue, but that's not the point of this reply.
You and I have a different set of ideals when it comes to used car purchases.

You look at the CPO "certification" that some overworked, underpaid, understaffed dealership service tech is going to get paid full wages to run a car they picked up either in trade from a customer, or from an auction from God Knows Where, USA, and actually spend the supposed amount of time to research the vehicle's previous service history, Carfax history, and then do an actual 172 Point Inspection on the vehicle?

That inspection number was taken directly from GM's CPO page, by the way, just as a reference.

I don't trust that a typical dealership in this country is going to pay a service tech to conduct 172 inspections on any car, unless a customer is paying for it. Why? Because it's cheaper not to. If someone buys a CPO car, they make a higher profit on the vehicle than a car without the certification. If there turns out to be an issue with the left rear wheel bearing, the warranty will pay to diagnose and replace the bearing, so why in the world would they preemptively spend the money to identify a bad wheel bearing, and pay for it out of the dealership's profit margin before the car has a buyer?

No dealership I've ever had dealings with would do that.
It doesn't make sense, for their bottom line.

So, for me, I treat CPO vehicles exactly like a used vehicle.
It needs an independent third opinion before purchase.
Someone who has a financial stake in inspecting the car.
That PPO Inspector would actually put the vehicle on a lift, and go over the car,

Again, the OP never indicated where the frame piece is located on the truck, but I would imagine it's near either suspension or steering mounting points, since it would exhibit issues while the steering was flexing the vehicle. Most people when inspecting the vehicle from underneath is going to be looking in that general area.

Ultimately, if someone is looking for a problem on a vehicle, they have a higher chance to find one than if no one ever looks for any problems. That's my reasoning for why I recommend people get CPO vehicles inspected before purchase.

Agree or disagree with my reasoning, it doesn't hurt my feelings.
Trust, but verify is my recommendation.
 
It was CPO by a Mazda dealership? Is that even a real thing?

I don't even get why the CPO thing was even an issue.
Apparently, the auto group he bought the truck from had the Mazda store and also a Nissan store.
His BIL worked at the Mazda store and apparently the OP either wanted to buy it from his BIL, or wanted him to get credit from the sale.
Salesmen around here working within the same owner group cross sell, or can easily refer to someone at the other store who could process the sale to keep the CPO intact.
If I were going to purchase a CPO vehicle, I'd want to go through any gyrations necessary to keep the warranty intact, even if BIL had to split the spiff to do the deal.
Either that or I'd have just gone over to the Nissan store to buy it.
 
So this truck wasn't CPO'd by Nissan, but by an independent Mazda dealer? So it has a dealer CPO, not manufacturer. Dealer CPOs are useless.
No it was CPO by Nissan but I bought it through Woodhouse Mazda instead of Woodhouse Nissan since my brother in law works there and their lots are connected
 
No it was CPO by Nissan but I bought it through Woodhouse Mazda instead of Woodhouse Nissan since my brother in law works there and their lots are connected
Your previous posts led us to believe the Frontier was sold as a CPO warrantied vehicle. However, the article on The Drive indicated that you forfeited the CPO warranty because it was purchased (through your BIL) at the affiliated Woodhouse Mazda dealership instead of the Woodhouse Nissan dealership. Here is the quote from the article you linked:

"Because the truck was stocked at Woodhouse Place Nissan, that meant he was forfeiting his CPO warranty."

For full transparency, was this truck sold as a CPO vehicle with a CPO warranty (either through Nissan, Woodhouse or Mazda)? Or did you agree to purchase it at a reduced price contingent on forfeiting the CPO certification and associated warranty?
 
Honestly Mathew if I were you I'd just trade the truck in driving straight from the dealer to another. The ranger is better or you could get that Ram. Nissan unjustifiably strung you out and only did something once it made them look bad on thedrive.
 
Am I also understanding that the dealer and/or Nissan will buy it back at full value?

If so, it's basically a no harm/no foul situation. Sure, it's a hassle but that's life.

Am I the only one who caught that? Am I misunderstanding??
 
Based on the pics I see in post #162, it looks like a weld bead is there, but the robotic welder totally missed the mark. Makes you wonder how often this happens where it makes it out the gate.
 
Your previous posts led us to believe the Frontier was sold as a CPO warrantied vehicle. However, the article on The Drive indicated that you forfeited the CPO warranty because it was purchased (through your BIL) at the affiliated Woodhouse Mazda dealership instead of the Woodhouse Nissan dealership. Here is the quote from the article you linked:

"Because the truck was stocked at Woodhouse Place Nissan, that meant he was forfeiting his CPO warranty."

For full transparency, was this truck sold as a CPO vehicle with a CPO warranty (either through Nissan, Woodhouse or Mazda)? Or did you agree to purchase it at a reduced price contingent on forfeiting the CPO certification and associated warranty?
It was advertised as CPO with a warranty by the Nissan dealer. The CPO warranty was removed to buy it from my brother in law.
 
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