Leaking oil with AutoRX

[Frank]

T-Keith you need to revisit wwww.auto-rx.com
and study application "How To Stop Rear Main Seal Leaks" than go to Proof Of Value and read about Mercury Marquis and look at photos.Synthetic esters can be hard on seal material, they are part of the complex additive package used by oil company's to make there synthetic oil perform.
Sometimes leaks occur.

 

[T-Keith]

I did not plan on following the "seal repair instructions" because I did not have any leaks until I put in the AutoRX. No offense, but your post does not come off well. I buy a product that is supposed to help seal leaks, instead it causes them, and then when I ask for help, you suggest using the same product to cure the problem it created in the first place.

I realize the circumstances may be different, but that it how your post sounds.

-T

 

[Bio-T]

T-Keith,

I think this has evolved to a customer/seller situation. You can email Auto-Rx directly and discuss your situation with Frank. Auto-Rx guarantees satisfaction with their product.

[ June 13, 2004, 12:37 AM: Message edited by: 59 Vetteman ]

 

[Gary Allan]

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it says to change the gasket every time you change the oil. Yet after calling around to every place in town, only one had it. And thet're $4 a pop.

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Just FYI. Go to an industrial supply store and see what a sheet of gasket material costs. It will be available in many materials (anything from uncured rubber to teflon ..paper..composite) and thicknesses. Use your plug as a template and use a simple pair of sharp scissors to cut it ..ideally you would use a radial razor gasket cutter (like a circle "compass") ..but

and trim with a razor. You would probably get a lifetime out of one sheet.

Given the build up depicted in you images, I would think that a similar condition exists everywhere else in the engine. ARX has removed that build up and you are experiencing the lack of them being there. Hopefully, and so far most of the claims that Frank has made appear to be heavily weighted in truth, your leak will stop when the seal is allowed to reconform to its original configuration, being unencumbered by the hard deposits that are currently being removed.


Let time be the judge of this.

In my experience with ARX, my leakage has reduced during my second cleaning phase and my valve seal caused smoking has been radically reduced. I hope, after the total treatment is done, that it is eliminated.

 

[T-Keith]

I have posted on AutoRX's site, but really haven't gotten a response there. I posted here because I know there are more people who have used this product, and maybe know more how it works.

-T

 

[T-Keith]

Thank you Gary, that was more of the response I was looking for. I really hope it will stop, but I think it's odd, since I really have never had a problem.

The gasket unfortunately is about a 1/4" thick in both height and thickness and about 3-1/2" in Diameter and solid rubber, it would be hard to cut out of a sheet.

-T

 

[kev99sl]

For what it's worth, my experience with Auto-RX has been that it often makes things appear to be worse before it makes them better. In my situation, everything from lifter noise to oil consumption appears to get "worse" during the early stages of the application. I can only assume this has to do with the cleaning process. You have to see the whole thing through -- all the way to the "additional 2000 - 3000 miles on the new oil" after the full application has been done -- to see the final results. In all of my situations, things always went back to normal (or were better) after the full application. My guess is that the ARX has cleaned up hard deposits on the seals, and it's going to take some time to recondition them.

 

[Eiron]

With only a 3.5qt capacity, do you have any A-Rx left over? I took sprintman's advice & mixed my 2oz of leftover A-Rx into a fresh qt of oil, then used that as top-up during the application period. I also used this "pre-mix" whenever I replaced an oil filter during my two extended cleaning applications. That way, I never had a diluted A-Rx ratio from topping up.

 

[T-Keith]

Well I ended up dumping too much AutoRX in so I really don't have any left. Your right, by the time 1500 miles rolls around I will have replaced all 3.5 quarts.

-T

 

[Ross]

is must be a 88 fiero 2.5 DIS tek 4 ???

I have had good luck using auto rx in all of my fieros.

Even Frank, the inventor of auto-rx, had a fiero and used it in it!! He and I had talked fieros back and forth for a while.

[ June 16, 2004, 01:58 AM: Message edited by: Ross ]

 

[tdi-rick]

getting even further

427Z06 said

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I'm thinking this is in the same league as the Range Rover pushrod engine...a '60s Buick design bought by Range Rover and used in the '80s and '90s.

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try bought in the sixties and used from '69 on. Yep, thats when the Range Rover was first released

Rick.

 

[Gary Allan]

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The gasket unfortunately is about a 1/4" thick in both height and thickness and about 3-1/2" in Diameter and solid rubber, it would be hard to cut out of a sheet.

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When you have the old one in hand ..and have spare time ..seek out a substantial industrial supply house or plumbing supply (perhaps Home Depot). They may have something for you. If I know GM ..it's probably a bas-tard size ..but you never know. I'd still check out the sheet stuff. That thickness and composition is available in sheets ..but would probably not be economical if you bought the circle gasket cutter (I haven't priced it). But imagine how envious your male pals would be when you whip out your own sheet of gasket material and she-at out a new gasket before their eyes

. Heck, that could be the equivalent to being able to adaquately field dress a freshly shot buck. I could be justification for added radius to your marked turf that may in fact extend into your neighbors yard.

 

[T-Keith]

Ross, it is an Iron Duke, but in an 88 Grand Am.

-T

 

[MolaKule]

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Everything that i read about ester based products are that they are highly stable for high heat and viscosity index but were hard on seals REDLINE uses esters in their oil and alot of guys i've spoke with are having similar leakin issues.

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Then you're still misinformed.

Do more searches on esters and leaks.

 

[T-Keith]

Just an update. The leak doesn't seam to have slowed. I am now 1000 miles into the rinse phase and It's used about 1-1/2 quarts of oil. I added a half quart of Delo 15w40, hoping to slow the leak a bit. We'll see how it turns out.

 

[thedawk]

Thanks for the updat T-Keith. I've been following this thread for a while now wondering if your leak would slow down at all since I'm kinda in the same situation as you. I havn't ordered the auto-rx yet but probably will soon. Good luck with your leak.

 

[Frank]

T-Keith Please revisit www.auto-rx.com Instructions to stop seal leaks.

Finish the rinse and than stay with "Dino Oil" no additives just
plain non synthetic oil. You may have to drive for up to 3000 miles after Auto-Rx application is finished before seal stops leaking.If Your seal is not torn or ripped, leak will stop. Seal is compatible with simple additive package found in "Dino Oil"

 

[T-Keith]

Just a follow up. I changed the rinse oil yesterday. Maybe a little dirtier then usual(2500 miles), but not much. No big chunks in the filter, I can post pics if someone wants. I guess the seals were the only dirty part.

I will now see if the leak continues or not. However, I'm not sure how much longer I will be driving this car.

-T