Layering Griots 3-in-1 Ceramic

[Douglas007]

I've been finding some great information here. A quick question - took ownership of a new Lexus NX350H in red last week. Thanks to the advice of several on this forum, I went with Griots 3-in-1 ceramic. I applied the first two coats on the second day of ownership about 18 hours apart. I put another coat on yesterday and was considering another coat in the next few days before snow and rain set in.

My question, am I wasting time and product doing applications so close together? Can this product be layered? Thanks in advance for any information.

 

[PimTac]

I've been finding some great information here. A quick question - took ownership of a new Lexus NX350H in red last week. Thanks to the advice of several on this forum, I went with Griots 3-in-1 ceramic. I applied the first two coats on the second day of ownership about 18 hours apart. I put another coat on yesterday and was considering another coat in the next few days before snow and rain set in.

My question, am I wasting time and product doing applications so close together? Can this product be layered? Thanks in advance for any information.

It can be layered. Two coats is enough. For optimal performance wait 24 hours between coats. Ceramics need a curing time.

What I do is apply a coat and the next time I wash I apply another coat.

 

[buster]

2 coats are ideal. More than that is a waste of time will yield no benefits at all.

Did you strip the surface prior to application? It's not entirely necessary but you'll get better results if you start from a clean surface.

 

[john_pifer]

It can be layered. Two coats is enough. For optimal performance wait 24 hours between coats. Ceramics need a curing time.

What I do is apply a coat and the next time I wash I apply another coat.

That’s good advice for those of us who don’t store our vehicles in a garage. Don’t want to apply again without washing when it’s been sitting outside collecting dust, etc.

 

[PimTac]

That’s good advice for those of us who don’t store our vehicles in a garage. Don’t want to apply again without washing when it’s been sitting outside collecting dust, etc.

That’s one big reason I do it that way. Another reason is that the Griots tends to attract pollen and whatever else is floating around in the air. It must be creating a static charge or something.

Right now our car which is silver has a coating of yellow pollen on it. We have a couple of large pines that really put this stuff out.

 

[Luftmasse]

That’s one big reason I do it that way. Another reason is that the Griots tends to attract pollen and whatever else is floating around in the air. It must be creating a static charge or something.

Right now our car which is silver has a coating of yellow pollen on it. We have a couple of large pines that really put this stuff out.

Yep. Good thing is it washes off easily.

 

[dan_erickson]

That’s one big reason I do it that way. Another reason is that the Griots tends to attract pollen and whatever else is floating around in the air. It must be creating a static charge or something.

Right now our car which is silver has a coating of yellow pollen on it. We have a couple of large pines that really put this stuff out.

I thought it was crazy for thinking the same thing

 

[f355spider]

Layering is debatable... it may work for some products, doesn't do anything for others. I would not layer more than two layers. Beyond that you may be simply wasting product. Might be better to simply boost it with a new layer when it gets weak.

Here is some independent testing done, this is the five month update: (note the Griots failed much earlier in this test than in previous tests ScottH has performed. He noted one change was it went through a record heat spell of 100F to 109F which may be why.
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[Oldmanram]

I have a question , after waiting 24 hours for first coat to dry , what prep do you do before applying a second coat ?
Just dust off ? or
Wipe down area with a panel cleaner ? Like a 20% solution of Isopropyl alcohol ......
Thanks for your input

I have noticed that when just dusting the Groits doesn't really want to stick ..........like water on a freshly waxed surface

 

[JohnnyG]

I use the Griots 3 in1 on the Mercedes. It is garaged, so it doesn't gather pollen. I had it detailed first to correct the dried on Ceramic coating that was put on the (probably too hot) hood by the dealership lot workers.

Being in Florida, it doesn't get very dirty.
I normally dust the car first, then use Griots as a spray wash. About once a month seems to work out well for me.
I would think that I have about 25 coats of Griots on there now, with no issues whatsoever.

 

[Propflux01]

Layering is debatable... it may work for some products, doesn't do anything for others. I would not layer more than two layers. Beyond that you may be simply wasting product. Might be better to simply boost it with a new layer when it gets weak.

Here is some independent testing done, this is the five month update: (note the Griots failed much earlier in this test than in previous tests ScottH has performed. He noted one change was it went through a record heat spell of 100F to 109F which may be why.
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I wonder if he had a defective bottle or wasn't applied correctly? I use the Griots and single-coat twice yearly, in spring and fall. It always holds its hydrophobic qualities before the next coat goes on. And the summer sun beats down hard here as well.

 

[Oldmanram]

Johnny, Funny I'm doing my Merc too. But I'm at the other end of the USA, The Great Northwest , Washington state.

 

[f355spider]

I wonder if he had a defective bottle or wasn't applied correctly? I use the Griots and single-coat twice yearly, in spring and fall. It always holds its hydrophobic qualities before the next coat goes on. And the summer sun beats down hard here as well.

It's possible it was a bad batch, he suspected it was the summer sun baking it. He leaves his sample car hoods exposed to the elements 24/7. He had done, I believe, three other extended tests and the Griots 3 in 1 Ceramic always lasted from 10 to 12 months.
I like it a lot, as it is slicker feeling than the Nu Finish Graphene spray, which lasts a similar amount of time.

 

[JohnnyG]

Like I said, no issues.

 

[Oldmanram]

Nice Finish , and ride

 

[f355spider]

Like I said, no issues.

The point of the video review with Griots 3 in 1 Ceramic Wax is that there is not benefit to layering.
Some think that if you layer more and more, that it will improve gloss or protection. The actual testing, in real world weather of sun and ran shows it is simply a waste of product.

There is no "issue" such that is could hurt or damage your car, it is just that there is no benefit.
People are obviously welcome to do as they please.

What you are doing is more like "boosting" your protection by continously reapplying it each month. A better product for what you are doing might be to use Griots Ceramic Speed Shine. It has some added gloss enhancers and still has a nice amount of ceramic. Griots corp office and retail store is not far from me and I attend a lot of their events and technical sessions. They are super helpful and informative.

 

[f355spider]

I have a question , after waiting 24 hours for first coat to dry , what prep do you do before applying a second coat ?
Just dust off ? or
Wipe down area with a panel cleaner ? Like a 20% solution of Isopropyl alcohol ......
Thanks for your input

I have noticed that when just dusting the Groits doesn't really want to stick ..........like water on a freshly waxed surface

It's why layering is probably not necessary or beneficial. Its bonds and works so well, it is essentially repelling itself when adding the second coat. The second coat will simply ensure a uniform application and cover anything you might have missed.

 

[Oldmanram]

It's why layering is probably not necessary or beneficial. Its bonds and works so well, it is essentially repelling itself when adding the second coat. The second coat will simply ensure a uniform application and cover anything you might have missed.

Thank You , I appreciate you clearing that up F355, Ha ... a Seattleite , I'm up on Camano Island {:
It was actually a pretty nice day, but don't tell anybody ............... Washington is already too crowded

 

[buster]

I thought about using 3 in 1 again. It's strength is durability but it doesn't have the best hydrophobics. 5/10 on that.

Skip to 9:00 and look how hydrophobic this product is. Beading isn't everything i just like it bc I air dry my car.

 

[JohnnyG]

The point of the video review with Griots 3 in 1 Ceramic Wax is that there is not benefit to layering.
Some think that if you layer more and more, that it will improve gloss or protection. The actual testing, in real world weather of sun and ran shows it is simply a waste of product.

There is no "issue" such that is could hurt or damage your car, it is just that there is no benefit.
People are obviously welcome to do as they please.

What you are doing is more like "boosting" your protection by continously reapplying it each month. A better product for what you are doing might be to use Griots Ceramic Speed Shine. It has some added gloss enhancers and still has a nice amount of ceramic. Griots corp office and retail store is not far from me and I attend a lot of their events and technical sessions. They are super helpful and informative.

Thanks for the reply. I can also offer that the bottle of Griots that I have is quite generous. After 3 years of using it, there is still most of the bottle left! If I don't use it, I feel that would be a bigger waste of product than just continue doing what I'm doing.
I might look into the Speed Shine product that you mention, but right now this is working very well for me.