Lawsuit vs Dollar General-branded motor oil
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If we were talking about a 10 page contract, i would understand. But when the label states 'not for cars made after 1988' on the back of the bottle, then shame on you.
Buying oil from any place with "Dollar" in the name, what do you expect?
Who hates their car so much that they pay $3 a qt for DG oil on instead of spending one extra dollar to get GTX or $.075 more for PEAK?
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Who hates their car so much that they pay $3 a qt for DG oil on instead of spending one extra dollar to get GTX or $.075 more for PEAK?
or even Supertech for the $3
Who hates their car so much that they pay $3 a qt for DG oil on instead of spending one extra dollar to get GTX or $.075 more for PEAK?
or even Supertech for the $3
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
It's the additive package that is coded with "API SL/SN" and such. Outdated specs are poisonous to new cars because the oil will allow dangerous buildup of combustion byproducts that become sludge that can do such damage at block oil passages, coke piston rings, and foul spark plugs.
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
It's the additive package that is coded with "API SL/SN" and such. Outdated specs are poisonous to new cars because the oil will allow dangerous buildup of combustion byproducts that become sludge that can do such damage at block oil passages, coke piston rings, and foul spark plugs.
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
The oil doesn't even have an API starburst on the front.
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
The oil doesn't even have an API starburst on the front.
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Buying oil from any place with "Dollar" in the name, what do you expect?
Some people need to know how to read a label and act accordingly, just like taking medicine. The people who participate in the lawsuits obviously need to be spoon-fed their whole life.
ANYWAY, about twice a year, Dollar General has Peak SN-rated oil on a BOGO sale, which brings the price down to less than $2/quart. This includes their DexMerc transmission oil. (Okay, spare me the "it's an obsolete spec" sermon)
Buying oil from any place with "Dollar" in the name, what do you expect?
Some people need to know how to read a label and act accordingly, just like taking medicine. The people who participate in the lawsuits obviously need to be spoon-fed their whole life.
ANYWAY, about twice a year, Dollar General has Peak SN-rated oil on a BOGO sale, which brings the price down to less than $2/quart. This includes their DexMerc transmission oil. (Okay, spare me the "it's an obsolete spec" sermon)
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
Not enough hours in the day to protect everybody from themselves. At some point, people got to take responsibility for what they are buying and knowing what they are buying.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
Not enough hours in the day to protect everybody from themselves. At some point, people got to take responsibility for what they are buying and knowing what they are buying.
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
The oil doesn't even have an API starburst on the front.
Many oils that are SN rated do not have the starburst on the front either. Yet they still meet current oil specs.
Your example proves my point even further.
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
The oil doesn't even have an API starburst on the front.
Many oils that are SN rated do not have the starburst on the front either. Yet they still meet current oil specs.
Your example proves my point even further.
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
The oil doesn't even have an API starburst on the front.
Many oils that are SN rated do not have the starburst on the front either. Yet they still meet current oil specs.
Your example proves my point even further.
So then it's actually labeled as such.
My point is to read whatever it is you buy. The DG oil was no different.
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
What exactly makes the oil "bad" for a new car?
Either way, there's the disclaimer on the label.
The disclaimer is on the back in small print. Did you read every single word on the last bottle of laundry detergent you bought? What if on the rear in small print said "Not good for washing machines. Only good for washing at a creek." You used it in a washing machine and it ate up the gaskets and tore your clothes up. Would you accept that or think a laundry detergent sold today should be good for the majority of methods for washing clothes?
If it was written in large print on the front I might agree. But the way its written, where its written, and also sold right next to good current oils is wrong.
The oil doesn't even have an API starburst on the front.
Many oils that are SN rated do not have the starburst on the front either. Yet they still meet current oil specs.
Your example proves my point even further.
So then it's actually labeled as such.
My point is to read whatever it is you buy. The DG oil was no different.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for those that are more concerned about saving a few dollars on oil after buying a car that costs them tens of thousands of dollars.
There is a VOA in that section of the old DG oil which claimed API SF.
It didn't look like it could have met that cert and looked pretty grim in general.
OTOH, nobody was buying this stuff for oil changes.
They were buying it as top-off oil. If the old beater was down a quart and one put a quart of this oil in it, I doubt that any harm would be done.
As someone puts in in their signature, any oil is better than no oil.
It didn't look like it could have met that cert and looked pretty grim in general.
OTOH, nobody was buying this stuff for oil changes.
They were buying it as top-off oil. If the old beater was down a quart and one put a quart of this oil in it, I doubt that any harm would be done.
As someone puts in in their signature, any oil is better than no oil.
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Buying oil from any place with "Dollar" in the name, what do you expect?
That wasn't always the case. About 10 years ago, Dollar Tree had SM rated Trop Artic Semi-syn 10w30 for a buck. You simply could not beat that. I cleaned out what they had back then. I think I may still have half a case in the garage.
Buying oil from any place with "Dollar" in the name, what do you expect?
That wasn't always the case. About 10 years ago, Dollar Tree had SM rated Trop Artic Semi-syn 10w30 for a buck. You simply could not beat that. I cleaned out what they had back then. I think I may still have half a case in the garage.
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Many oils that are SN rated do not have the starburst on the front either. Yet they still meet current oil specs.
A real SN oil lacking the Starburst (i.e. a 10w-40 in SN, an HDEO, a monograde) would generally still display the API Donut on the back, which is also mentioned in most automotive manuals. My G37 manual, for example, refers to both; incidentally, ILSAC for that car is optional, whereas the API specification is what they're seeking.
Many oils that are SN rated do not have the starburst on the front either. Yet they still meet current oil specs.
A real SN oil lacking the Starburst (i.e. a 10w-40 in SN, an HDEO, a monograde) would generally still display the API Donut on the back, which is also mentioned in most automotive manuals. My G37 manual, for example, refers to both; incidentally, ILSAC for that car is optional, whereas the API specification is what they're seeking.
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