Late model old tech

[CKN]

Originally Posted by Jarlaxle
Originally Posted by CKN
Originally Posted by AZjeff
With all the hand wringing about AFM, GDI, CVTs, small displacement turbos, EVs, hybrids, 9 speed trannys, and every other latest technology are there many current models that would be considered "traditional" technology without any of these loathsome features? Since I've been looking at trucks lately it seems that the Frontier and Titan fall in this group. What are some other current old tech vehicles, say 2015 up?



"New Tech" on BITOG gets "hand wringing" whether it justified or not.

My Silverado 1500-Crew Cab 4WD gets much better mpg that the Frontier-and it's far more capable. It (new tech) is not always a bad thing.


Aren't those the trucks with the class-action lawsuit for AFM failures?



There were a very small amount in the early years. I'm not an idiot. I'm not spending $50,000.00 for a pickup with a bad motor........

Enjoy that automotive marvel called a Crown Vic.

 

[hpb]

2019 Suzuki Jimny - but you can't buy one in the US.

 

[Silk]

And the Suzuki Carry,sold as a farm truck here. As you can see b y the plate, road legal here, but we are fitting quad bike tyres for farm use,

 

[PimTac]

Actually those little Suzuki trucks are quite handy. They are super popular in Asia. I didn't realize New Zealand had them as well.

In the Philippines and other places they called them Multicabs.

 

[E365]

I just choose not to live in fear my whole life.

So maybe 10 or 15 years from now you have to replace a $375 turbo?

 

[JOD]

You just need to go back to 2017 for your dream car: https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/nissan-tsuru-sentra-time-forgot-260308

Of course, there's this little issue: https://jalopnik.com/horrifying-crash-test-against-a-modern-car-shows-why-me-1788423100

When I was in Mexico, I couldn't figure why there were all these new-looking Sentra cabs around (I had a '93 SE-R). Turns out, they just stopped making them. If you want "new old tech", this is the car for you! I think the ones in Mexico are even single port fuel injection--none of this complicated multi-port injection stuff.

Personally, I don't find any of the new tech loathsome. I'll gladly trade a carbon cleaning every 80K for a car that's putting out 250HP and 300 ft-lb of torque and still getting 36 MPG on the highway.

If you want a recent car you can buy in the US with old tech, I think the 2.5 5 speed Jetta Sportwagen is the best car you can get. It's a manual transmission wagon, which makes it perfect! The 2.5L engine will go until you no longer want to drive, if you're so inclined.

All that said, this hand-wringing over new technology has been going on forever. I remember when folks thought electronic ignition was the end of the world. Personally, I'm good with it. There have obviously been some bumps on the way, but overall engines are more efficient and fun to drive than ever.

 

[CKN]

Originally Posted by JOD
You just need to go back to 2017 for your dream car: https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/nissan-tsuru-sentra-time-forgot-260308

Of course, there's this little issue: https://jalopnik.com/horrifying-crash-test-against-a-modern-car-shows-why-me-1788423100

When I was in Mexico, I couldn't figure why there were all these new-looking Sentra cabs around (I had a '93 SE-R). Turns out, they just stopped making them. If you want "new old tech", this is the car for you! I think the ones in Mexico are even single port fuel injection--none of this complicated multi-port injection stuff.

Personally, I don't find any of the new tech loathsome. I'll gladly trade a carbon cleaning every 80K for a car that's putting out 250HP and 300 ft-lb of torque and still getting 36 MPG on the highway.

If you want a recent car you can buy in the US with old tech, I think the 2.5 5 speed Jetta Sportwagen is the best car you can get. It's a manual transmission wagon, which makes it perfect! The 2.5L engine will go until you no longer want to drive, if you're so inclined.

All that said, this hand-wringing over new technology has been going on forever. I remember when folks thought electronic ignition was the end of the world. Personally, I'm good with it. There have obviously been some bumps on the way, but overall engines are more efficient and fun to drive than ever.


While I agree with your points-it should be noted that building to price point is very important in Mexico-due to the income level of our AVERAGE Mexican citizen. I was reading an ex-pat newspaper article down there and the article mentioned there are still new cars being manufactured in Mexico that do not have a full complement of airbags nor do many meet U'S' crash standards. He said that an "at speed" crash almost always means a fatality.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted by E365
I just choose not to live in fear my whole life.

So maybe 10 or 15 years from now you have to replace a $375 turbo?

I had a VW, and the turbo went at 255,000 miles, I think that was the 8 year mark. $700 for the turbo, forget install charge (it was less, but then there was $50 towing fee also).

I think turbos can go the distance, but I'm not sure that they are $400 to change either. By all means, build it into one's expectations for a vehicle, plan for unanticipated repairs.

 

[CT8]

Originally Posted by MCompact
Originally Posted by bdcardinal
The Chevy SS was about as close as possible in a sedan. A 6.2L V8 with either a 6 speed auto or a 6 speed manual.


But it didn't have a carburetor, a distributor, rear drum brakes, manual windows, or an AM radio with one dash mounted speaker.

We as BITOG aren't asking what is old school? Carb points and no body control computer of anti lock brakes is old school.

 

[CT8]

Originally Posted by MCompact
Originally Posted by bdcardinal
The Chevy SS was about as close as possible in a sedan. A 6.2L V8 with either a 6 speed auto or a 6 speed manual.


But it didn't have a carburetor, a distributor, rear drum brakes, manual windows, or an AM radio with one dash mounted speaker.

We as BITOG aren't asking what is old school? Carb points and no body control computer of anti lock brakes is old school.

 

[hatt]

I'm pretty happy with my luddite coyote and 6 speed. You guys keep buying the new stuff so they can get all the kinks worked out.

 

[AZjeff]

I guess for this discussion I'd consider old tech to be 5-6 spd auto, some flavor of multi port injection, no AFM even though it's been around 15 years or so. Not many left.

 

[zorobabel]

Originally Posted by JOD

If you want a recent car you can buy in the US with old tech, I think the 2.5 5 speed Jetta Sportwagen is the best car you can get. It's a manual transmission wagon, which makes it perfect! The 2.5L engine will go until you no longer want to drive, if you're so inclined.

Isn't this the engine with the timing chain at the back?

 

[supton]

Originally Posted by zorobabel
Originally Posted by JOD

If you want a recent car you can buy in the US with old tech, I think the 2.5 5 speed Jetta Sportwagen is the best car you can get. It's a manual transmission wagon, which makes it perfect! The 2.5L engine will go until you no longer want to drive, if you're so inclined.

Isn't this the engine with the timing chain at the back?

I think you're thinking of the VR6. Quick look on google shows the chain in the "proper" place.