Kirkland Oil & shorter oil change intervals

[tired]

Well I call it lesson learned. I have done the same thing with previous cars. I now use supertech and Kirkland with a factory Oe oil filter and do 3K oil changes.

I would consider my driving locally stop and go into the more gas diluted zone. I have always changed it more frequently.

Like you I see no difference in higher oils to the Kirkland or super tech. Mostly because I do a short oci.

I don't regret using other high-end oils as it was a small price for getting educated on how oils are produced and what type of additive packs they use and really enjoying the marketing , but mostly learning a lot here from BTOG forum.

And don't forget that even an AMSOIL SS and expensive filter change is probably still less than bulk oil at your dealer or Jiffy Lube. So all things considered, not too expensive.

 

[tired]

I’ve been trying to figure out why I can’t or shouldn’t get a $92k car. I see them left and right being driven by lots of men women cops etc (Chevy Tahoe).

Yesterday I actually logged in to Soc sec and it’s significant 62 vs 67 (I’d have to pull the statement off the pc to get the actual number but 62 was in the 2,000’s and 67 was in the 3,000’s).

So here’s my question. How does $100k with tax and tags change what year I retire at? I told my buddy who is a Dave Ramsey follower if I get that car my son will get less so it’s like buying the car with his money (he’s 10). My buddy said he doesn’t see it that way. He says to get the car and he believes DR would tell me to get it as well.

Where is the correlation between retirement age and the cost of a new car? It would seem like the new car has more to do with expenses than it does with retirement. I have no debt which is why I would consider spending 6 figures on a car. It “is” a lot of money but it’s a Chevy not even a
caddy. My .02. And I would plan on keeping indefinitely 20 years etc

Edit Ps on the original topic I too got the 2 5qt for $29.99 Kirkland 5w30 and I plan to go 6,500 on the 2006 Lexus. I took their 5k interval and decided to add 1,500 miles. It hasn’t got an OLM like the other 2 cars

Truly baffling to me that this is not inherently obvious. Just speaks to the lack of personal financial education in the world today. Maybe it's not your fault no one taught you this, but you do know about Dave Ramsey at least.

I don't know how old you are, but for the sake of argument, let's say you have 20 years before you retire. That $100k plus let's just be conservative and say an extra $500/year in more tag fees and insurance vs an older car, will be worth $490,807 in twenty years at 8% compounded return (assuming a balanced portfolio in US, non-US equities, and bonds).

So that "100k" Tahoe is really costing you almost $500k in future net worth.

Retirement isn't an AGE, it's a NUMBER. You can retire when you have enough money that the growth and income from it can pay your annual expenses. You don't get to magically retire when you're 65. Good luck if you're planning on social security to do that for you.

 

[tired]

A UOA is not a tool for comparative oil quality regardless of whether an oil "punches above its weight class", whatever that means.

Kirkland oil is no better than any of the other similar Group III base synthetics on the market. Not saying anything negative, just no better.

Just so I understand you correctly, you would say that Kirkland/Supertech is the same quality (same wear protection, same deposit inhibition) as any OTS offering from Pennzoil, QS, Castrol, et al.? Would you say the needle doesn't move until you go to HPL or AMSOIL?

 

[Glenda W.]

Just so I understand you correctly, you would say that Kirkland/Supertech is the same quality (same wear protection, same deposit inhibition) as any OTS offering from Pennzoil, QS, Castrol, et al.? Would you say the needle doesn't move until you go to HPL or AMSOIL?

There’s certainly OTS oils that use higher quality ingredients. The real question is whether you need higher quality ingredients in your particular engine.

I’m not sure shortening oci length can prevent volatile base oils from forming deposits on say pistons. From what I understand that starts happening from the start. Again all engine dependent. I’ve had many vehicles go 200k on syn blend and even conventional oils. Others developed varnish and as you know stuck oil control rings on some pretty good oils.

 

[John105]

Truly baffling to me that this is not inherently obvious. Just speaks to the lack of personal financial education in the world today. Maybe it's not your fault no one taught you this, but you do know about Dave Ramsey at least.

I don't know how old you are, but for the sake of argument, let's say you have 20 years before you retire. That $100k plus let's just be conservative and say an extra $500/year in more tag fees and insurance vs an older car, will be worth $490,807 in twenty years at 8% compounded return (assuming a balanced portfolio in US, non-US equities, and bonds).

So that "100k" Tahoe is really costing you almost $500k in future net worth.

Retirement isn't an AGE, it's a NUMBER. You can retire when you have enough money that the growth and income from it can pay your annual expenses. You don't get to magically retire when you're 65. Good luck if you're planning on social security to do that for you.

The future cost of reading your post has to be where marginal cost > marginal benefit

 

[tired]

The future cost of reading your post has to be where marginal cost > marginal benefit

Good luck and godspeed. I figured it wouldn't sink in, but it was worth a shot.

https://www.personalfinanceclub.com/is-it-really-worth-spending-money-on-new-cars/

Maybe that will help.

You should take his course (no affiliation). Would be a game changer for you.

 

[tired]

There’s certainly OTS oils that use higher quality ingredients. The real question is whether you need higher quality ingredients in your particular engine.

I’m not sure shortening oci length can prevent volatile base oils from forming deposits on say pistons. From what I understand that starts happening from the start. Again all engine dependent. I’ve had many vehicles go 200k on syn blend and even conventional oils. Others developed varnish and as you know stuck oil control rings on some pretty good oils.

That really seems to be the big question. You nailed it.

Do you think this would show up on a UOA? Increased oxidation? Sheared out of grade?

 

[factorytuned2012]

Between myself and family: here is all of the vehicles my son & I change the oil for:

2017 Lexus RX350 - 3.5l v6 w/ 85k
2013 Honda Accord-2.4l 4 cyl w/ 395k
2008 Honda Accord-2.4l 4 cyl w/212k
2010 Toyota Sequia- 5.7l V8 w/ 232k

Kirkland signature will do 5-7500 miles easy

 

[tolian21]

Kirkland is a good oil

 

[MrGraybeard]

I would certainly take the Kirkland synthetic to 5K or even 6K and use an ST filter for $3.84 currently.

As far as Social Security goes... a US Senator recently said SS is going broke and won't be around in a few years which is disgraceful when we give BILLIONS away to other countries. I'm 65 and haven't taken it yet because I want my wife to get more when I kick the bucket (my pension dies with me). She's a few months older than me and just started taking it.

Social Security benefits add up to 22% of the federal budget. It's the place where reform would deliver the biggest bang but DC lacks the courage.

 

[John105]

Social Security benefits add up to 22% of the federal budget. It's the place where reform would deliver the biggest bang but DC lacks the courage.

I told my lil bro I do feel people changed. When I started my career there was no email nor tracking of time. I routinely heard the sr managers say they forfeited 2+ weeks of vacation they didn’t need it.

Today, there are folks who wfh (some work 1-3 hours per day) and nickel and dime their employers for time off. Completely different mentality.

When I started it wasn’t that uncommon to meet someone with 20-30+ years tenure. And healthcare care was cheap and I remember a $5 copay (some of my coworkers today still have that, lucky ).

So I get that social security isn’t an entitlement, but in some way it should be. I’ll be putting in $10.9k this year to it, and have been putting in my entire career. To say well it’s gone isn’t exactly great news nor does it conjure up visions of competency and responsibility

 

[tolian21]

How do commends about Social Security have anything to do with Kirkland Oil?

 

[John105]

How do commends about Social Security have anything to do with Kirkland Oil?

That’s actually a very good question.

At any rate the next 5 qt jugs I have in the garage are Kirkland. I’m not worried about if they’re good enough or not. We’re in a tough financial time and we’ll use them. For a normal, not a shortened interval.

 

[dubber09]

I’ve been reading a lot of BITOG posts & watched a lot of YouTube videos over the years and I am starting to wonder if someone would be better off buying a good quality synthetic @ Costco (Kirkland-Warren) and pairing it with a factory oil filter and lowering the oil change interval from 5K to 3k.

I’ve been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and Fram Ultras or factory filters for the past 3-4 years at 5K OCI, but have been thinking it might be better for the engine and money wise to change my approach.

Just run both scenarios numbers then, your choice of brand name oil with 5k OCI or Kirkland with 3k OCI.
See how much it's gonna cost you for oil and filters in both scenarios for say next 60k miles, brand name oil may actually cost less. It'll be 12 OCIs with one and 20 OCIs with other.