Just In Case You Thought You Were Safe

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I'm surprised some consumer group didn't hammer them to fess up. They're essentially commiting fraud by allowing the API label to be on a bottle of known defective oil. I would say that they're an enabling accessory to fraud anyway. They know who made it ..the maker knows that they made substandard oil ..and they're selling it as API certified.


It does seem the API is a tool of the oil producers, there to help the customer feel better if not always actually be better off...
 
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Chances are they could have just been supermarket brand stuff...

Or maybe they are not taking action because the oils were made by big influential API members . . . .
 
Maybe we should use 5 quarts all from different manufactures when we change to insure a reasonable oil change.
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Maybe we should use 5 quarts all from different manufactures when we change to insure a reasonable oil change

That's the first reasonable reason for blending that I have ever heard.
 
I seriously doubt that any of the brands we commonly discuss here, were involved.

Per the May 2005 Lube Report Article API licenses approximately 7000 products for 530 companies, worldwide.

Scroll down thru the list of API Licensed Products to get an idea of the size of this licensing program.

IMHO, when the array of possible products is viewed, 11 non-conforming products out of 611 sampled, with only 2 significant "deviations" is a pretty good track record.
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IMHO, when the array of possible products is viewed, 11 non-conforming products out of 611 sampled, with only 2 significant "deviations" is a pretty good track record.

Unless the bad oil winds up in YOUR engine . . .
 
This goes back to stuff I have talked about in the past. I have heard that in the past at least the government did occasional random sampling of motor oils and bench tested the oils to see if they contained adequate chemical additive content, that the oils were of the correct labeled viscosity, etc.

There were motor oils failing to meet the requirements in this testing. Which just goes to show that the API and the SAE do not appear to really offer much protection to the public when it comes to motor oil quality. If poor quality motor oil that can damage engines is really being sold to the public, and if nothing is done about it, that is a scandal.
 
The API is coming across as a bit of a joke on this one. They should publish the names of the offenders and require a recall.
 
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The API is coming across as a bit of a joke on this one. They should publish the names of the offenders and require a recall.

Maybe they should have (past tense.) This was their 2004 results. There are probably new SM formulations replacing the offending oils, and the old stuff might already be long gone, along with a few engines.
 
Out of hundreds of different oils tested, you'd think the ones that failed would be "el cheapo, never heard of it" oil sold at Aunt Granny's Grocery store. I doubt the offenders were name-brand giants like Pennzoil, Castrol etc.
 
INFORMAL API LOTTERY ANNOUNCED....WINNERS SUFFER ENGINE MELTDOWN.

API ANNOUNCEMENT:

"Attention consumers relying on API certification: 2% of API certified oils do not meet API standards, at least two of which are so bad that they could cause engine damage. In order to maintain the credibility of the lottery, API will not be advising consumers which API certified oils will cause engine damage."


No credibility problem there!
 
I find it interesting that the failures(out of spec) was in a multitude of areas. Such as viscocity, low on adds, high on adds, ect.
I agree with Terry. Perhaps a maintenance dose of ARX is a very good thing.
 
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I find it interesting that the failures(out of spec) was in a multitude of areas. Such as viscocity, low on adds, high on adds, ect.
I agree with Terry. Perhaps a maintenance dose of ARX is a very good thing.

Please explain how this would correct viscosity problems, cold flow issues, or additive mistakes.
 
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