Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: KenO
Originally Posted By: Trajan
The tennis courts, which unlike the school is not locked, has nothing to do with anything. He didn't have permission to use their power outlet. Have you ever asked for permission to use a power outlet in a public building? I haven't, and I'd bet neither have most people.
Do you have anything besides the Leaf's owner that the statement was worded the way he claims it was?
Who claims anything was worded that makes him appear a troublemaker? Outside of the owner? The officers statement, for one, as wella s the cheif's statement.
Now for the rest.
The officer didn't need to find the owner of the unlocked vehicle that was stealing electricity. Allegedly stealing electricity. big difference. At this point, the officer had no idea IF anybody was stealing anything. He had a 911 call to go off from, and at this point, I don't think it's been made public WHO made that 911 call. If it wasn't from school administrators - I don't think anybody else would have the authority to claim something was being stolen, do you??
The officer had probable cause. Why? Electricity was being stolen. In other words, a crime was in progress. Again - you don't know that. The officer made an assumption, based ona claim - there was no fact at that point of the investigation if the electricity was being 'stolen' or not.
Spelling? Does not negate the fact a crime was being committed. No, but sets a precident of the intellect of the officer, which conclusions can be drawn about his decision making abilities. I mistpell and created grammar errors often on the internet, but this isn't my job. While at work - it's perfect. See the difference?
So he wasn't arrested at the scene. And, he was arrested afterward. By DeKalb County, not Chamblee.
He had no permission to use the school's outlet. Ever. It has nothing to do with tennis courts. And why keep bringing the coach up? He didn't steal anything. Again - who has? Have you? And why bring the coach up? Because the bigger issue seems to be tresspassing, NOT theft. IF the vehicle owner was tresspassing, there's a good chance the coach was as well, but at this point we don't know. Perhaps the coach often instructs tennis on these courts, with the permissions of the school? At this point, we don't know yet.
Nobody is aware of the value of the theft. First of all, the police do not carry meter readers. Second, obviously the car owner doesn't know either. Especially as he's admitted to doing it5 multiple times. And by the way, how would the cop know how long he's been there? Not relevant anyway. This is really pretty simple math. The charging rate isn't linear, but one can extrapolate that a 15A circuit at 110V is going to output a max of ~1800 watts, which is 1.8KWh. I live not too far from here, and my electrical rate is roughly $0.09/KWh. We can alsoa ssume that a municipality like a school gets a discounted rate, so its reasonable to also assume that if his charging time was 30-60 minutes, that his cost was probably about $.0.10-$0.15.
Handcuffing? That's what they do when you're arrested. And again, where is the proof it was only 5 cents? The car owner? Sure, like he wouldn't lie.... Not everybody is handcuffed. Handcuffing is for restraint of a suspect or convict, and for the safety of the officer. I can be assumed that this suspect posed no physical thread of flight, or to the officer, but we don't know that. The best we can do is to assume it was done to embarass him.
Saying he would do it again? That is what is called an admission of guilt. And since anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law...... (Idiot should of kept his mouth shut, but he is arrogant) Not always. There are plenty of times when statements or admissions of guilt before or even after being told ones Miranda rights are striken from court record.
What the chief says about it doesn't really matter. And which one? Marc Johnson, police chief and city manager of Chamblee, said, "Bottom line: if he had just said, 'Sorry I can just unplug,' there wouldn't have been a report."
Revenge? If that was true, it would of happened right away. Instead, he was arrested 11 days later warrant for misdemeanor theft.
In Georgia: Misdemeanor Theft
A theft is a misdemeanor when it involves property with a value of $500.00 or less. There is an exception for Theft by Shoplifting.
It should be noted that for a second misdemeanor theft, there is a mandatory minimum fine of $250. A third such conviction carries a mandatory minimum jail sentence of 30 days or home confinement of 120 days.
So if the arrogant idiot does it again, that so called 5 cents will get very expensive.
You've make some fairly irrational, and incorrect statements here. I've gone thru and notated the ones I'm noticing quickly in red above. So, after reading thru and notating that - you MUST beleive every person who's ever plugged in an electrical device for non-school purposes is a criminal. Thats not up for discussion, you said it above. Simple logic, and yours is pretty poor.
Maybe you should learn to comprehend. From claiming a school is a public building, which it is not, like a city hall is, to equating some guy stealing electricity for his car to someone charging a phone......... Well, you're right, it isn't up for discussion. Until you learn to read an comprehend instead of being emotional.
You attempt is extremely poor. Do better.
A school is a public building - hence the term PUBLIC SCHOOL(unless it's a private school, of course). It's built, staffed, and supplied with public funds. Students of the public go there. People of the public use the property, as you stated you have in post #3207949. I'm doing quite well. I can read, and I have comprehended your posts quite well, I'm not sure you can comrehend mine though. You must be the only one using emotion, because I'm certainly not. Just logic, and the facts as they've been demonstrated. You've yet to privide any rebuttal whatsoever to my logical notations of your comments. City hall is also public property, for the same reasons. Anybody can walk into City Hall. The usage limits will be a bit more strict, obviosuly, but it's still absolutely a public building.
And why is charging a cell phone different from charging a car? It's plugged into the same electrical outlet, for quite possibly the same amount of time.
