It never gets any easier letting someone go

[R18Civic]

I thought this was 100% going to be about an ex.

 

[dishdude]

I thought this was 100% going to be about an ex.

I thought someone passed away, no joke.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

MANY companies are violating the employees contract and firing employees for this.

Problem is this. Back in COVID, many jobs were offered as remote. They were fully remote. No need to work in the office. No need to be near the office. No need to live in or near the city. Millions of these workers moved out of the cities, to the suburbs for a lower cost of living, and a better place to raise a family.

Now 5 years later, they are renigging on these contracts, changing the terms, and requiring people to work in a local office. Even though they live thousands of miles away and their offer never required in person working at a local office.

I'm not saying that's the case in the original post, but I have heard of this happening all over the country to remote workers.

This happened to about 60 former co-workers.

 

[SOUNDMAN5000]

Yea, I had the thought my 1st wife sure never had a problem letting someone go...

Seriously, that same can be said for my last job of 20 years and me letting my employer go. I gave it all I had but the day the boss upset me once again with his crazy BS disrespect, to the point I had chest pains, I handed him my keys and walked away. I had never taken a sick day and only 4 weekends ( so called vacations ) off in 20 years!

It was not just a job but my life, my identity, it has truly set me back and the hardest thing I have ever done except Divorce but I'm still alive, had I stayed I'm not so sure as stress and BS kills.

 

[KrisZ]

You likely have done the guy a favor. If he’s truly good, he should not have any problems finding another job that is WFH and likely more pay.

 

[SeaJay]

MANY companies are violating the employees contract and firing employees for this.

Unless it was a written employment contract signed by both sides, it really is just the terms of the employment at the time of hiring. These things are usually subject to change by the employer at any time thereafter.

 

[Vil_Riker]

WFH has been a lifesaver for my functional area. We have had a chronic shortage of talent but after changing policy , we have been able to hire talent from all over the country. The key is to monitor key performance metrics so that W gets done.

 

[IndyIan]

Even when they deserve it, it's hard.

This one definitely didn't deserve it, great worker, very knowledgeable.

But senior management decreed no more remote employees, come heck or high water.

Hopefully we don't get heck from it in the form of, some broken system nobody knows how to fix.

Yep, sounds like they will do fine and get another WFH, or something nearby. Depends on the type of job of course, but I think some employers are shooting themselves in the foot, losing good employees who know they can get another WFH job pretty easily.
The ones who will come in, many of them don't have any better options?

 

[Brons2]

MANY companies are violating the employees contract and firing employees for this.

Problem is this. Back in COVID, many jobs were offered as remote. They were fully remote. No need to work in the office. No need to be near the office. No need to live in or near the city. Millions of these workers moved out of the cities, to the suburbs for a lower cost of living, and a better place to raise a family.

Now 5 years later, they are renigging on these contracts, changing the terms, and requiring people to work in a local office. Even though they live thousands of miles away and their offer never required in person working at a local office.

I'm not saying that's the case in the original post, but I have heard of this happening all over the country to remote workers.

Said contractor was never officially offered remote work, nobody was, it was just a byproduct of the pandemic.

Everyone else was recalled to the office and came back, he didn't. We made exceptions for a while but senior management got tired of it. The end.

That said there's nothing this person did that couldn't be done remotely. I'm having to pick up his slack this week until I back-fill his position. Such is life.

 

[Brons2]

Depends on the employee. If there good and do there work from home then who cares. If not it’s a management issue.

If there not doing there work they likely weren’t doing much in the office either. It’s a management fallacy. I watched lots of people in office go to meeting after meeting and accomplish nothing.

Amen to this.

I've seen meetings cripple even otherwise productive employees.

 

[Sedin26]

Amen to this.

I've seen meetings cripple even otherwise productive employees.

This is one of the greatest benefits of working at home. Before 2020, people at my company constantly held meetings and wasted time. Magically, when everyone was working at home, that slowed down drastically. Work kept getting done well and people were productive.

I’ve found it hasn’t swung back the other way - people have determined that it’s not necessary.

 

[OVERKILL]

Well, if management told people to move to different time zones while WFH, only to ask them to move back to the original time zone so they could work onsite.....that's total BS on the company's part.

Scott

Government kind of did that here. When Trudles was in power apparently WFH was handed out like lollies. We are about 3hrs from Ottawa and our neighbour, who was studying abroad, rented out her house to two WFH government employees. We had them beside us for several years, but when Carney got elected, he changed the terms and everyone was back to the office, so they had to move back to Ottawa.