Is PYB the same formula in Canada and the US?

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Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Or, ask StevieC very nicely to pickup a jug of Castrol Edge 0W-20 for you on one of his frequent jaunts across the border.
Then you could be the first Canadian to try this stuff and also likely still be the first to have a used oil analysis done on it.

Just an idea.
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J/K no problem... Gotta see this Corvette he is going on about anyways!

I'm in the falls next week if you want...
 
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Or, ask StevieC very nicely to pickup a jug of Castrol Edge 0W-20 for you on one of his frequent jaunts across the border.

Originally Posted By: StevieC
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That's not the StevieC we know and love
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Originally Posted By: CATERHAM


Patman, I'm at a loss as to why you want to go back to a dino in the Honda, I thought you were delighted in the lack of cold start-up noise with the Toyota 0W-20?
Particularly for winter use, the relatively cheap Toyota oil is so dramatically lighter than a 5w20 conventional at start-up it seems the ideal choice to stick with it.



I probably would be better off sticking with Toyota 0w20 (especially for those cold starts!) however part of me still keeps wanting to switch this Honda back over to conventional oil just to prove a point (that if the engine doesn't call for synthetic, then just stick with 5000 mile oil changes with conventional and it'll last almost forever) I also get kind of annoyed having to buy oil from a dealer, it's not as easy as picking it up at a regular store. For instance, when I bought the Toyota 0w20, I stopped off at the dealer close to my house, but they had none. So then I drove a 40 min round trip to another dealer, and it took the guy 5 or 10 minutes before he even came up to the parts counter, then he took his sweet time in the back getting the oil as well, so that was kind of a hassle. And with Toyota switching suppliers of the oil, that kinda ticked me off as well, as I wanted to run a bunch of intervals in a row with the same oil, but now with them discontinuing the formula I have currently in the car I have no choice but to switch oils yet again. So that's what got me thinking about trying Pennzoil conventional, as the two best conventional oils (IMHO) are Castrol GTX and Pennzoil Conventional, and I've already run a few intervals of GTX in this car so I thought I'd see how the new Pennzoil conventional performs.
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC


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J/K no problem... Gotta see this Corvette he is going on about anyways!

I'm in the falls next week if you want...



Thanks for the offer Stevie, it's definitely tempting to try Castrol EDGE 0w20, but not this time around. We'll definitely have to meet up sometime and swap oil stories! If you ever need to visit the Quiznos on Bellshire Gate in Mississauga let me know, my house is a 2 minute walk from there.
 
Originally Posted By: Patman


Thanks for the offer Stevie, it's definitely tempting to try Edge 0w20, but not this time around. We'll definitely have to meet up sometime and swap oil stories! If you ever need to visit the Quiznos on Bellshire Gate in Mississauga let me know, my house is a 2 minute walk from there.


Will do... That area is covered by another DM her name is Debi in case you bump into her.

I will PM you if I have to head to that area.

Offer for the Castrol Edge is always on the table....

Steve
 
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Originally Posted By: mechanicx
It would be really sad if you guys were getting lower spec oil on top of paying more for it. I always assumed that Canadian vehicles require and follow the oil requirements as US and the oils were the same. Now Mexico I can see have lower spec oil.


XOM names their oil differently here. Because of that, and the uncertainty as to what I'm actually getting inside the bottle, I won't touch it - even if it wasn't so badly over-priced here. They're the only ones I've known to do this, but I never considered Pennzoil conventional so if there's any difference on the bottle here I would have easily missed it. The rest of them are the same here as they are there - just more expensive, and in some cases, harder to find.

-Spyder


It's true about XOM.
I also noticed we don't get all of their products.
Never once ever in my life seen MC5K on shelves here. Never seen Mobil 1 Extended Performance, and Mobil 1 High Mileage is hard to find.

We have Mobil super 1000, super 2000, and good old M1.

They are also bloody expensive.

Exxon Superflo, is Esso Extra here.
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Patman


We'll definitely have to meet up sometime and swap oil stories! If you ever need to visit the Quiznos on Bellshire Gate in Mississauga let me know, my house is a 2 minute walk from there.


Will do... That area is covered by another DM her name is Debi in case you bump into her.

Steve


I would rather meet up with someone named Debbie than someone named Steve.
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Originally Posted By: Johnny


I would rather meet up with someone named Debbie than someone named Steve.
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Just don't tell your wife!
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Patman, there's no point to prove.
We all know Honda's will last for ever on the cheapest dino you can find. But Pennzoil conventional at over 4 bucks/L is anything but cheap and is actually false economy when you can get an ultra fuel efficient 0W-20 synthetic for only 5 bucks/L. Your argument about the inconvience and change of supplier is a rationalization.

So come clean and tell us the real reason for such an illogical idea? But please don't say what I think the reason is; you're actually in love with Pennzoil!
What a yucky thought!
 
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Patman, there's no point to prove.
We all know Honda's will last for ever on the cheapest conventional you can find. But Pennzoil Conventional at over 4 bucks/L is anything but cheap and is actually false economy when you can get an ultra fuel efficient 0W-20 synthetic for only 5 bucks/L. Your argument about the inconvience and change of supplier is a rationalization.

So come clean and tell us the real reason for such an illogical idea? But please don't say what I think the reason is; you're actually in love with Pennzoil!
What a yucky thought!


I do like Pennzoil (had great luck with PP in the Vette and am hoping Ultra is even better) but it's really hard to say what makes me change my mind about oils. A BITOGer like myself is always thinking of trying out different oils
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Considering the small price difference between Pennzoil Conventional and the Toyota 0w20, you definitely do make a good argument for sticking with the 0w20. But I still can't help myself, especially when I go back and look at all the old used oil analysis for my wife's Honda, and see how well it did using conventional 5w20 oils, and read back at how I swore I was going to stick with conventional oil for a while! (oops!)
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And it is true what I said about the inconvenience, I have always preferred to use an oil (and oil filter) that I can grab during one of my Saturday morning Walmart or Canadian Tire visits. There is also a bit of excitement if I can get that oil on sale too, something that will definitely never happen with the Toyota 0w20. (although as mentioned, it doesn't seem to happen with the 5w20 at Walmart either, but I still try to keep that hope alive)
 
Last night I was at the Dollar Store (General?) and they had Pennzoil conventional two bottles for $5. They had a mix of the new formula (bottle) and old. I grabbed a couple of 10w40 new bottles. Two for 5 bucks isn't bad at all for Pennzoil conventional.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Maybe Canadian Sludge is different than American Sludge.
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Maybe were still ticked off about that gold medal hockey game at the Olympics
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
Yes, I'm sure it has been reformulated. Don't know the answer as to why it takes so long before things happen in Canada.


I'm confident it'll get here. Things just take time. Perhaps our suppliers just like buying huge amounts of stock, so they need to stock less frequently.

I don't know. Old Pennzoil conventional, new Pennzoil conventional, is it that big of a deal? After my valve cover gasket change, I bought and used old Pennzoil conventional without the slightest worry. And it only cost me around $10, which is a rarity up here.
 
Originally Posted By: Patman
A BITOGer like myself is always thinking of trying out different oils
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^^2nd! I get bored using the same oil all the time :^P Experimenting with different ones is really fun :^)
 
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