Originally Posted by vavavroom
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by vavavroom
I think the question should be whether or not LM is more overrated than other oils with the same approvals. And we need to know who is overrating the product: the manufacturers, testing facilities, consumers, mechanics, Joe the barber?
What? Are you suggesting the manufacturer or the testing entity are faking the approvals?
No, I am not suggesting that at all. I'm questioning the choice or word "overrated" because we don't know who's overrating a product and based on what criteria. The manufacturer's approvals speak for themselves. Tests may show a superior product or a better value for one or another product. The term "overrated" is so vague that I find the original question unanswerable.
I agree with you, it's just a subjective statement b/c folks here don't think LM is a good oil for what you pay vs. other oils with the same approvals so LM Leichtlauf High Tech 5W40 vs. M1 or Castrol 0W40s from Wallyworld for 1/2 the price. LM is good at marketing (I suppose that's why I use them) and I guess folks are saying that is the "overrated" part. My last UOA was v. good at 7K with LM and would have lasted until 10K is my guess and that's tuned and driving my VW hard. Maybe the M1/Castrol from Wally woudl have been exactly the same..who knows.
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by vavavroom
I think the question should be whether or not LM is more overrated than other oils with the same approvals. And we need to know who is overrating the product: the manufacturers, testing facilities, consumers, mechanics, Joe the barber?
What? Are you suggesting the manufacturer or the testing entity are faking the approvals?
No, I am not suggesting that at all. I'm questioning the choice or word "overrated" because we don't know who's overrating a product and based on what criteria. The manufacturer's approvals speak for themselves. Tests may show a superior product or a better value for one or another product. The term "overrated" is so vague that I find the original question unanswerable.
I agree with you, it's just a subjective statement b/c folks here don't think LM is a good oil for what you pay vs. other oils with the same approvals so LM Leichtlauf High Tech 5W40 vs. M1 or Castrol 0W40s from Wallyworld for 1/2 the price. LM is good at marketing (I suppose that's why I use them) and I guess folks are saying that is the "overrated" part. My last UOA was v. good at 7K with LM and would have lasted until 10K is my guess and that's tuned and driving my VW hard. Maybe the M1/Castrol from Wally woudl have been exactly the same..who knows.