Is it time for Ford to give up on MyFord Touch?

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I'll preface this by saying that I actually have never used a MyFord Touch system, so I am in no way passing judgement.

Consumer Reports released their latest review of the system. It wasn't good:

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We wouldn’t recommend dealing with the frustrations of MyFord Touch on a daily basis even to an adversary.


In 2011, Ford's JD Power IQS dropped from 5th to 23rd. In 2012, it fell another 5 places, to 27th. Much of this was because of the negative reception of MyFord Touch:

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People were finding several problems with the system in that it would crash, freeze, black out. Beyond that, people complained that it was more complex to use than they would like.


Of course, there was a massive update to the system here recently. Motor Trend did an about face on their review of the system after the update.

Review pre-update:

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How so many Ford owners enjoy this, I haven’t a clue. I suspect they love the idea of it without playing with it much before purchasing, then realizing what a catastrophe it is.


and post-update:

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I honestly don’t have enough good things to say about it, and to call it ‘class-leading’ is an understatement.


Yet some outlets that maintain a long-term test fleet, like Edmunds, are still having issues with the system, even after the update:

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtests/2012/08/2012-ford-explorer-myford-touch-saga-continues.html

Regardless of whether you think CR or JD Power are biased/useless/idiots, lots of people still rely on them and, more importantly, automakers live and die by them. A "Recommended" pick by CR remains the goal of every automaker.

So what should be the future of MyFord Touch? Ford has taken quite a beating since it's introduction. The big update was obviously an improvement, but customers all suffered until it was made available. Did customers know this is what they getting into when they bought their vehicle? How will it affect other automakers and their introduction of tech? Will it make them more cautious and result in more validation before release, so as not to take it on the chin so badly in the ratings?

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The tech industry has used customers as beta testers for a long, long time. How many of us have received software, driver, or firmware updates to correct something that should never have been a problem or to introduce a feature that should have been there in the first place?

We accept those because they are realitvly inexpensive products and the update really isn't that troublesome. A new vehicle on the other hand is pretty spendy and dropping it off at the dealer for a day is a pretty big hassle.

Shame on any automaker who puts such a system out there. Not to single them out, but hopefully the beating Ford took will serve as a stern reminder to other automakers that releasing an immature technology at the expense of their customer's experience will lead to nothing good.
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I've had 6 Windows computers and every single one was/is aggravating sometimes. I don't understand why anyone would want to put up with that in their car. Imagine dealing with this stuff five or ten years from now.
 
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MyFord Touch (branded as MyLincoln Touch on Ford's Lincoln brand products.[1]) is an in-car communications and entertainment system developed by the Ford Motor Company and Microsoft. The technology comes factory installed with Ford product offerings and is based on the Microsoft Auto 4.0 software platform.


Supposedly doesn't play with iPhones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyFord_Touch
 
What ever it is, get rid of it. Get rid of the touch screen and power windows too. Get rid of the fancy climate control and bring back the simple three dial, fan, temp, and output selector. Too much complicated stuff in modern cars that distract from driving.
 
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
I've had 6 Windows computers and every single one was/is aggravating sometimes. I don't understand why anyone would want to put up with that in their car. Imagine dealing with this stuff five or ten years from now.


Exactly!!!! One ad says "it's like driving a computer." Well, I don't want to drive a computer, I want to drive a CAR.

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I've been saying for months, MFT is much too complicated. Both my cars have the original Sync, and that is complicated enough. Been using Sync for two years and still have not mastered it. My Lincoln dealer has one girl who's only job is to instruct new owners on the operation of MLT, plus to answer owners who come in and can't figure out how to do an operation. In addition, MFT/MLT has done away with knobs and switches. Everything on the touch screen. If a driver can't remember a voice command, he still must take his eyes off the road to look at the screen. NOT USER FRIENDLY.

Thinking of trading my SHO, but no way will I buy a FoMoCo with MFT/MLT.
I'm now looking at a different 2013 brand with a much more user friendly system. If I don't trade, I'll just keep my SHO with the Sync it has.
 
Originally Posted By: TallPaul
What ever it is, get rid of it. Get rid of the touch screen and power windows too. Get rid of the fancy climate control and bring back the simple three dial, fan, temp, and output selector. Too much complicated stuff in modern cars that distract from driving.


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But in all seriousness Ford isnt going to get rid of this system, they are marketing to the segment that wants the most high tech of everything and there definately is a market for that. What Ford needs to do is pull options like this out of their bundles and let them be stand alone options that people dont have to buy. I am mid 30s with above average tech savvy and it would probably steer me to another brand if I was in a situation where I had to take it.
 
Originally Posted By: Duffman77
I am mid 30s with above average tech savvy and it would probably steer me to another brand if I was in a situation where I had to take it.


I have to agree. I'm all for new technology, but there are limits. That limit is exceeded for me when Microsoft is involved.
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Bluetooth for cell phones, I can understand; I can live with a GPS. Climate control is great. Let's not get carried away, though. Heck, even Infiniti and Nissan salesmen are steering customers away from their tech package.
 
We have two Fusion Hybrids at work, and neither have the MFT, and will agree with some of the above that Sync is already complex enough...too complex really. There is a maze of menus one has to wade through on the Fusion just to change simple settings on the dash. The vast array of like-sized buttons on the center stack is an ergonomics failure.

A co-worker just bought a new Escape. Very nice car, objectively. Excellent powertrain. Excellent chassis. But subjectively, it has an atrocious interior. Ford has put too many of their eggs in catering to the video game generation (and I'm FROM that generation and I don't like it!). Too many buttons, too many options, too many driver seat distractions. We've had the Fusion Hybrids at work for two years now, and I still find it difficult to make very simple HVAC changes while driving. The temperature knobs are about the only intuitive parts of the system. Everything else is lost in a sea of buttons.

Ford has their eye on the ball with their EcoBoost line of engines, but their interiors and complex infotainment systems keep me out of their showrooms.
 
These technologies are okay as long as other options are available. I am young enough (27) and work in a tech-driven industry. I know a fair amount. With that being said, I do not care for this stuff incorporated in vehicles. To the point that if all touch controls/voice commands were the only option I'd shop another manufacturer.

Everyone has their own tastes, mine being a clean, simple "I'm still a car" layout. One thing that isn't really opinion though is that these new features are more of a distraction than anything for drivers. Enough that I'd consider it a safety issue. If someone in their 20's sees it as a distraction think of older generations not exposed to technology but being forced into it in their new vehicles. Scary stuff in my opinion. People drive bad enough as is.
 
I'm an IT guy. We have some cool, high tech things where I work.

When I get in my car to drive home, I want simplicity; I want to just press one button to turn on my radio, another button to change the station. I don't need that fancy [censored].

Hence, why I drive a near base model car.
 
I dont quite understand what made Ford go " Hmmmm we should partner up with Microsoft " , because you know , their past is littered with soooo many successful Windows OS right ?

We are in the market for a mid/small size sedan to replace the Civic , but the rampant criticism for MFT is definitely not making me want to consider the manufacturer.
 
"ATTENTION: According to our data records your vehicle and your cellphone GPS/Tracking device were both moving in excess of the suggested speed limit last evening. Please remit payment on the attached ticket in the amount of $250.00 within 5 days or the fine will double."

Thanks for driving through our fine town!
 
I have the Sync in a 12 Lincoln, took a very long time to feel comfortable with it, actually do have the voice commands profiled and set up but I rarely use them as touching the screen is faster and simpler, it just does not understand what commands I am saying. navigation system has a disclaimer that one must hit the "I Accept" touchscreen every time it is used, dealer says no way around it and very annoying.

Hate to see what it will cost to repair some day
 
I think Ford is on the cutting edge here (compared to other factory systems) so the bugs and "beta testing" are not surprising to me. I have no doubt that, within a year or so, MFT will start paying off in spades. Great concept. I wonder how Toyota's new system will compare...?
 
Originally Posted By: Spector
I have the Sync in a 12 Lincoln, took a very long time to feel comfortable with it, actually do have the voice commands profiled and set up but I rarely use them as touching the screen is faster and simpler, it just does not understand what commands I am saying. navigation system has a disclaimer that one must hit the "I Accept" touchscreen every time it is used, dealer says no way around it and very annoying.

Hate to see what it will cost to repair some day


The accept message on the navigation is normal and required by law. My M5 has it too
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I've had several rentals with the system. Never had a single problem, and believe me when I say that rentals are going to have the most issues.
 
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