Is Better Filtration "BAD" for your Engine?

Been lots of discussion about those Harley "5 micron" oil filters. In this post, it says "Nominal 5 Micron Filtration", which would be 50% @ 5u. So it's just some advertising hype.

My ocd wear guard from the 1990s is a 5 micron filter from a certain point of view.
I'm running a run of the mill wix 20 micron rated filter on my ford right now and I see no 5 micron particles in oil samples I pull. I'm sure there's some, just few and far between. Could be 5% at 5 micron efficiency for all I know.
 
My ocd wear guard from the 1990s is a 5 micron filter from a certain point of view.
I'm running a run of the mill wix 20 micron rated filter on my ford right now and I see no 5 micron particles in oil samples I pull. I'm sure there's some, just few and far between. Could be 5% at 5 micron efficiency for all I know.
How are you measuring the particle size? I bet if you sent a used oil analysis sample in for an ISO particle count it would see lots of 5u particles.
 
How are you measuring the particle size? I bet if you sent a used oil analysis sample in for an ISO particle count it would see lots of 5u particles.
Microscope scale.
Yeah they would. Maybe thousands per ml. Considering I'm looking at a field of oil 200 microns wide and less than 100 microns deep I'm not going to see them unless there's really a lot of them.
Right now I'm seeing between 0 and 3 particles in the viewing field of my microscope with a Ford oil sample with 8,000 miles on the filter.
 
I learned about PPE oil filters from Dave's Auto Center on YouTube. They recommend them on GM diesel truck engines because they are absolutely gigantic compared to the OEM oil filter (although a conversion kit is required to use them, IIRC).

Anyway, I ordered 4 PPE oil filters for my Ford F-150 PowerBoost with the 3.5L twin-turbo engine, and now I'm hesitant to actually use them.

Here's why:
  1. the PPE oil filters are significantly smaller than the Motorcraft oil filter they're supposed to replace. A lot smaller.
  2. and upon reflection, the 10 micron particle filtration (even at 50% efficiency) makes me worried that oil won't flow very well through the filter resulting in extremely high back pressure. I read some GM owners say that their PPE filters burst or ruptured and dumped oil everywhere - happened to one guy while he was driving, may have torched his engine. The others report leaking on driveway after having driven and parked after a week or so.
I'm using 100% synthetic 5w30 and have very short OCIs. Truck is a 2022 with 72k miles (almost all highway driving at 75mph).

I've been a fan of the Wix XP filters and mostly use them, occasionally use Motorcraft FL-500s.

What do you all think?


I bought several PPE filters and I think they are junk.

1. Of 5, only 1 had an anti drainback valve that actually occluded flow. 2/5 literally flowed backwards as easily as forwards.

2. The media is the most fragile I have ever seen. I cut open the ones I used and it’s the only filter I’ve ever seen where I could fully separate the media from the core with just finger pressure. It folded and tore like wet newspaper.

3. One had a major leak at the crimp.

4. I did UoA and the report from the STP XL and the PPE showed zero advantage in the PPE.
 
4. I did UoA and the report from the STP XL and the PPE showed zero advantage in the PPE.
A basic UOA won't show anything useful wrt to filter performance if you're looking a wear ppm info. And the insolubles number has no real correlation either. You'd need an ISO particle count at least.
 
A particle count would not be useful?
Sure ... I said "You'd need an ISO particle count at least." But to see the difference in filter performance you'd have to compare particle counts using different oil filters on the same engine for approximately the same OCI since the particle count will also be OCI dependent ... ie, a longer OCI can create more debris to be filtered.
 
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No, that’s why bypass filters are used. Analytically clean oil by diverting 10% of the flow through a low or sub micron element.
Your Wix XP has been updated, they call it new gen, with 99+%@23 microns rating if you subscribe to that method.
Analytically clean oil is not worth pursuing. I will put this challenge out to anyone: no engine can be proven to last longer with bypass filtration than with a spin on that's 99% at 20 micron.

In the world of large industrial equipment, it's understood that the centrifuge systems that advertise super-clean oil are useful for reducing maintenance and NOT for prolonging engine life per se. Spin on filters, even with many of them that are large, generally can only go 500-1000 hours before needing filter replacement. Centrifuge setups can go 1000-2000 hours before maintenance.

The case for centrifuges has to do with downtime frequency and maintenance cost-- it does NOT provide longer engine life nor allow OEMs to get 5k or 10k more hours before overhaul. Overhaul frequency is the same for spin ons and centrifuge setups.

The warranty data I saw suggested that spin-on filters actually had been correlated to longer life for fuel pumps (the large Bosch CP9.1) than the centrifuge setups, but the R-square was too weak to be conclusive. Certainly spin ons were not associated with shorter lived fuel pumps.

Bypass filters for consumer applications and diesel pickup trucks are dumbo's feathers useful for generating sales. If you want proven cleaner oil, get a centrifuge. But while it will deliver cleaner oil, unless you want to validate a 50k oil change interval or such, there's never a break even point, certainly not in engine life.


Bypasses were developed when full flow media was pretty terrible. Full flow media is now so good (if you use a good filter) that a bypass setup doesn't give you any extra engine life.
 
Here is a test of a bypass oil filter with a particle count, put on without changing the oil and the oil retested after only 200 miles using the tp filter.
https://www.frantzfilters.com/
There's nothing new with these style filters. Whether it's the Frantz TP filter or the older string-wrapped bobbin style, or the AMSOIl setup with a spin-on bypass element.

All the bypass filters can be shown to produce cleaner oil. None of them have been proven to provide longer engine life vs a newer high efficiency spin-on. That's the conundrum. As you go smaller in particle size, you get to a point where particle counts don't matter.


Consider this: on the fuel systems I engineer, the operating pressures are over 30,000 psi. The clearances are single digit microns in some locations. The precision and tolerance is mind-blowing in some parts of the system. And the surface loads in terms of PSI higher than anything else in the engine, blowing away rod bearings, pin joints, gear teeth, etc.

Yet even as we try to get fuel cleaner and cleaner, we've discovered that there is a critical particle size below which trying to remove it only shortens filter life and does nothing for hardware life. In fact, testing showed that when we tried to filter out 2 micron particles, all we did was plug filters with things like pipeline corrosion inhibitors and other trace fuel content that show up as semisolid particles. Letting these through has no harm on wear rates or durability.

So I relaxed the nominal media spec to 3 microns from 2 microns, cured almost all the premature plugging issues, gave our customers an average of 2x-3x filter life while having no detrimental effect at all on injector or pump life-- the field data actually suggests somehow that components are lasting a bit longer.

It turns out that there's a critical particle size somewhere around 4 microns that is where you transition from harmless to relevant in terms of wear mechanics. And this is in the fuel system where fuel is the lubricant and you have super high pressures.


The high pressure fuel pump is oil-lubricated on the bottom end and has roller followers on a camshaft that activate the plunger pump elements. The unit loading here is extraordinarily high--higher than any other oil-wetted surface in the engine. And higher than any oil-wetted surface in your typical passenger car engine.

Yet I have torn apart these pumps after 20k hours on petroleum 15w-40 with only 20 micron spin on filtration and there is so little wear that camshaft surface finish is still clearly discernible as being the way it was when brand new.

So if a cheap petroleum 15w-40 (shell rimula) is sufficient to keep an extraordinarily highly loaded camshaft pristine when used with mere 20 micron spin on filtration, I interpret this experience as strongly suggesting that nobody needs oil filtration much below 10 microns. High efficiency at 15-20 microns is far more important than having any efficiency at 5 microns.


As I wrap up this long post, I will suggest the ultra-clean oil might have one advantage in gasoline engines in terms of deposit prevention if you can filter out deposit precursors more effectively. But this is not a wear mitigation measure, just potentially an increase to engine life anyway. And by my lights, the PGI filter media that has performance of over 98% down to 15 microns is so good that there's no value whatsoever in trying to improve on this filtration performance if you are trying to optimize engine life.

Regular use of the PGI-made 10k mile filter will eliminate filter performance as a variable for engine life.
 
Bypass filter setups allow the oil change intervals to be extended quite a bit, and primary used on engines (typically diesel) with huge sump volumes. There is a factor in engine wear that is connected to oil cleanliness, so running a bypass filter (or similar) system on an engine with very long oil change intervals is beneficial for wear reduction and longer oil change intervals. Engine wear wrt oil cleanliness is basically proportional to the how clean the oil is times how long it's ran. A very dirty sump ran for a long oil change interval will cause more wear than a short oil change interval with a cleaner sump. Running a full flow high efficiency filter (99% @ 20u) on a typical gasoline automotive engine for an oil change interval of 5K-10K miles is going to keep the oil pretty clean.
 
Engine wear study data from Cummins and a figure showing how debris in the oil can get into journal bearings to cause wear. Particles larger than the MOFT can enter the journal bearing oil wedge before being squeezed down into the MOFT. Some of those entering particles might get squeezed out the sides of the bearing before getting caught in the MOFT, but not all. According to this study, particles in the 5-10 micron range caused the most wear.

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