Interesting claim by Amsoil
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Decades ago, one of the knowledgeable people suggested that different manufacturers use their labs in different ways, intimating that one major used the lab to build the cheapest complying lube, while others used their labs for "good", creating a better product.
(noting from me that some additives serve multiple puropses, so cutting an additive may have no detriment, or even be a positive depending on interactions).
As to common - that's very open to interpretation.
* one manufacturer who does it always - is that common
* all manufacturers do it occasionally - is that common (and I'd suspect Amsoil do it occasionally, not just to scrape over the line)...
one phrase I've heard way too many time from kids at Uni "P's make degrees"...I loathe it.
(noting from me that some additives serve multiple puropses, so cutting an additive may have no detriment, or even be a positive depending on interactions).
As to common - that's very open to interpretation.
* one manufacturer who does it always - is that common
* all manufacturers do it occasionally - is that common (and I'd suspect Amsoil do it occasionally, not just to scrape over the line)...
one phrase I've heard way too many time from kids at Uni "P's make degrees"...I loathe it.
Octane rating is questionable too.
The Department of Agriculture in our State, only regulates weights and measures.
1 gallon pumped is a actual gallon.
No one regulates the Octane
The FTC handles that. They require that the fuel have a delivery ticket or certification letter with the date, your name, the name of the person you’re transferring the fuel to, what octane that fuel is and how they determined that rating. Everyone involved is required to keep copies of that for a year.
There are also portable IR analyzers available that quickly allow octane measurements.
Thanks for that.
That process works assuming that everyone involved is honest.
I guess my Trust is low when I hand over money
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Well, I think there are some good points made with this thread. What is great, and what is “good enough”? Because a lot of that doesn’t seem to be exactly clear when discussing oil. It’s usually just certifications...does the oil meet the certifications? Does the oil carry licensing? If so, it’s good enough. Well what is better? And how can we tell?
And they’re not going to tell us, at least honestly. And it probably won’t make much of a difference either way.
But I think we all know engineers that have worked for car companies that have told us...hey don’t blame me...we have our production meetings every Monday, I came up with a solution/improvement to the product...it was going to cost the company 10 cents...I was laughed out of the room!! Forget about it, we’re not improving it, it’s fine. I can’t tell you how many engineers working for the major auto manufacturers have told me stories like that. I imagine the oil companies are no different.
And they’re not going to tell us, at least honestly. And it probably won’t make much of a difference either way.
But I think we all know engineers that have worked for car companies that have told us...hey don’t blame me...we have our production meetings every Monday, I came up with a solution/improvement to the product...it was going to cost the company 10 cents...I was laughed out of the room!! Forget about it, we’re not improving it, it’s fine. I can’t tell you how many engineers working for the major auto manufacturers have told me stories like that. I imagine the oil companies are no different.
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I just purchased a whole lot of Kirkland. I guess my life is in shambles 
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.And there's a referee to make sure they are playing by the same rules (sort of).
you have to make claims if you want to advertise and sell
to discriminating buyers.. the rest of us just buy the cheapest stuff on the shelf
knowing that we are basically compulsive oil changers and it is overkill to spend any more than th eminimum
while engaging in compulsive oil changing.
to discriminating buyers.. the rest of us just buy the cheapest stuff on the shelf
knowing that we are basically compulsive oil changers and it is overkill to spend any more than th eminimum
while engaging in compulsive oil changing.
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If only Project Farm could answer this...Amsoil vs. HPL death match.
I am particularly interested in the drag race.
Made in Germany it has to be good....
Schlangenol.....Not if you believe some people. Some suggest that when an oil needs to meet a "10" value for something, the oil producer hits 10.1 and calls it good. Or they need to be a "5" for something else and 5.1 it is ! Just barely squeak by.....
Yeah there are levels to all this oil madness. Normal people just go by what their owner's manual says. Choose the right viscosity and specification and be done with it. Live your life. Smart. Then there are those that want the best and chase the best.....
I'm a sucker for seeing engine sequence test results. Years ago, Amsoil didn't do much of that it was mostly simple bench tests like TFOUT, 4-Ball wear and others. Now they're giving you IIIH, IVA, GM Turbo, LSPI results, Noack. Good stuff.
I'm a sucker for seeing engine sequence test results. Years ago, Amsoil didn't do much of that it was mostly simple bench tests like TFOUT, 4-Ball wear and others. Now they're giving you IIIH, IVA, GM Turbo, LSPI results, Noack. Good stuff.
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The upkeep and maintenance on supercars is colossal
The only supercar I would ever want is an Acura NSX. There is one on youtube with 400,000 miles and still going strong (with Honda reliability). You don't see many other supercar brands ever have cars that exceed 100,000 miles. Perhaps it's due to the cost of repairs. At 21,000 for an oil change every 4k miles, it would cost $500,000 for oil changes for the first 100,000 miles LOL.
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