If Pennzoil is one of the best, why is it so cheap
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Originally Posted By: Captain_Klink
about 4 months ago WM was selling it for $10.50 a jug. Canadian WM is selling QS 5qt for $9 CDN and Valv WB for $11 for 5.5qt.Which leads me to believe that WM could sell for less in US, so while PYB is priced modestly, they are still making a profit, don't worry about that part. The reason we find it "cheap" is corporate policy. For instance the policy of Castrol is to overprice the products, and they get the market of the people who can be swindled into thinking that by paying more, the product must be better, even though it really is not. PYB just does not believe in swindling people, the same way that Mobil Oil, and Castrol do. They are not run by the same greedy thieving bunch, and they believe in selling a superb product at a fair price. However, the real bargain is Ashland: they sell their NAPA full synthetic group 3 for $3 per quart at NAPA stores during their sales. periodically check with NAPA at the beginning of the month flyer, and then stock up. MC 5w20 symi synthetic is also a super bargain at $11.50 a 5 qt. jug.
I would not critize Pennz at at all. A fine product at a fair price. But Scholtz, you are a bomb dropper. Just what ever comes out of your mouth will do with little or no experience attached to it. Boom!!
about 4 months ago WM was selling it for $10.50 a jug. Canadian WM is selling QS 5qt for $9 CDN and Valv WB for $11 for 5.5qt.Which leads me to believe that WM could sell for less in US, so while PYB is priced modestly, they are still making a profit, don't worry about that part. The reason we find it "cheap" is corporate policy. For instance the policy of Castrol is to overprice the products, and they get the market of the people who can be swindled into thinking that by paying more, the product must be better, even though it really is not. PYB just does not believe in swindling people, the same way that Mobil Oil, and Castrol do. They are not run by the same greedy thieving bunch, and they believe in selling a superb product at a fair price. However, the real bargain is Ashland: they sell their NAPA full synthetic group 3 for $3 per quart at NAPA stores during their sales. periodically check with NAPA at the beginning of the month flyer, and then stock up. MC 5w20 symi synthetic is also a super bargain at $11.50 a 5 qt. jug.
I would not critize Pennz at at all. A fine product at a fair price. But Scholtz, you are a bomb dropper. Just what ever comes out of your mouth will do with little or no experience attached to it. Boom!!
PYB has almost no moly now that moly has gone up in price, could be one reason it is able to be sold as such low prices.
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
PYB has almost no moly now that moly has gone up in price, could be one reason it is able to be sold as such low prices.
BUT it now uses about 100ppm of Boron in it's formulation.
Boron isn't a cheap additive, AFAIK!
PYB has almost no moly now that moly has gone up in price, could be one reason it is able to be sold as such low prices.
BUT it now uses about 100ppm of Boron in it's formulation.
Boron isn't a cheap additive, AFAIK!
Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Any SM oil is cheap for what you get.
I agree. There really have been no issues with API SM oils where called for.
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Any SM oil is cheap for what you get.
I agree. There really have been no issues with API SM oils where called for.
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
Wait until the new GF-5 API SN oils come out. Then we will have something new to talk about for the next two or three years.
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Any SM oil is cheap for what you get.
I agree. There really have been no issues with API SM oils where called for.
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
GF-4. SM doesnt work for me AT ALL. Still think its junk. If you dont think the oil blenders and the additive Co's Chem E werent/arent running around with their hair on fire .. you cant upset that apple cart without serious ramification.
Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Any SM oil is cheap for what you get.
I agree. There really have been no issues with API SM oils where called for.
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
GF-4. SM doesnt work for me AT ALL. Still think its junk. If you dont think the oil blenders and the additive Co's Chem E werent/arent running around with their hair on fire .. you cant upset that apple cart without serious ramification.
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Im sure.
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Wait until the new GF-5 API SN oils come out. Then we will have something new to talk about for the next two or three years.
Johnny!!
Johnny
M1
Is that new avatar the M1 pegasus??
We do have new things to talk about... or did I miss a thread. I'm not around as much as you bitog junkies
Wait until the new GF-5 API SN oils come out. Then we will have something new to talk about for the next two or three years.
Johnny!!
Johnny
Is that new avatar the M1 pegasus??
We do have new things to talk about... or did I miss a thread. I'm not around as much as you bitog junkies
It is the Mobil Pegasus. Actually that is a photo of the pegasus setting on top of the old Mobil building in downtown Dallas.
Lets just call it a mid life crisis.
Lets just call it a mid life crisis.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Any SM oil is cheap for what you get.
I agree. There really have been no issues with API SM oils where called for.
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
GF-4. SM doesnt work for me AT ALL. Still think its junk. If you dont think the oil blenders and the additive Co's Chem E werent/arent running around with their hair on fire .. you cant upset that apple cart without serious ramification.
I thought I saw somewhere that SM had to give less valvetrain wear and perform better in several areas over SL?
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Any SM oil is cheap for what you get.
I agree. There really have been no issues with API SM oils where called for.
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
GF-4. SM doesnt work for me AT ALL. Still think its junk. If you dont think the oil blenders and the additive Co's Chem E werent/arent running around with their hair on fire .. you cant upset that apple cart without serious ramification.
I thought I saw somewhere that SM had to give less valvetrain wear and perform better in several areas over SL?
Originally Posted By: Johnny
It is the Mobil Pegasus. Actually that is a photo of the pegasus setting on top of the old Mobil building in downtown Dallas.
Lets just call it a mid life crisis.
Wow, and the new sig... and OCI! I want in!!
Was it me and my switch to M1 0w40 from PP?! Sorry mate!
It would be something else to go 10k miles on the 0w40.. that would be almost a years worth of driving for me. How convenient that would be!
Ok, sorry for highjacking this thread. Johnny, pm me if you know something I don't
It is the Mobil Pegasus. Actually that is a photo of the pegasus setting on top of the old Mobil building in downtown Dallas.
Lets just call it a mid life crisis.
Wow, and the new sig... and OCI! I want in!!
Was it me and my switch to M1 0w40 from PP?! Sorry mate!
It would be something else to go 10k miles on the 0w40.. that would be almost a years worth of driving for me. How convenient that would be!
Ok, sorry for highjacking this thread. Johnny, pm me if you know something I don't
Originally Posted By: deven
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
Which just goes to show you how much group think asserts its fiendish power.
BITOG circa 2005 or 2006 when SM oils were announced and people were panicking once the first few UOA's came back with higher than normal wear and add pack was reduced to meet SM standards. People were going out of their way to stock up on SL oils. My, how things have changed.
Which just goes to show you how much group think asserts its fiendish power.
Pennzoil is a good oil but how can you think it is the best? Its good but its not so cheap... In wal mart at this time its priced ok but even Wal mart tried to push up the price and they did problem is their sales went way down i know i was shopping for oil there one time and they had tons of it and when i asked my sons friend which works there why they had so much he said they raised the price and sales hit the skids (in his words)
Actually when the price went way up on Pennzoil i started using Conoco-Phillips which we buy in bulk for our shop Great oil at a great price..
Actually when the price went way up on Pennzoil i started using Conoco-Phillips which we buy in bulk for our shop Great oil at a great price..
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
I thought I saw somewhere that SM had to give less valvetrain wear and perform better in several areas over SL?
It does.
I thought I saw somewhere that SM had to give less valvetrain wear and perform better in several areas over SL?
It does.
Originally Posted By: Johnny
It is the Mobil Pegasus. Actually that is a photo of the pegasus setting on top of the old Mobil building in downtown Dallas.
Lets just call it a mid life crisis.
Senility is a [censored] of a thing.
It is the Mobil Pegasus. Actually that is a photo of the pegasus setting on top of the old Mobil building in downtown Dallas.
Lets just call it a mid life crisis.
Senility is a [censored] of a thing.
What makes you think it is one of the best's? It is at best cheap and more then enough for most North American user's! It is not even close to the best. In fact Amsoil S3K would kick it's teeth in date it's sister and Mary it Mother all at the same time that is how wimpy PP is!
Seriously how many people are asleep at the wheel look at it's number's look at independent lab test's conducted for Amsoil. It is not even close to the best it is not even close to M1 which consistently comes in second place for the last 20 years to Amsoil!Wake up people it is one thing to lie tot he mass's quite another to lie to yourself or to believe a lie!
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