If I want to use my filter twice can I

[Cujet]

The only time I've ever had a filter leak, is when I re-installed one (on a race car that needed oil cooler adapter maintenance) . I'm 100% sure the seal had compressed initially, and sealed perfectly. But the second time around, the seal was hard and no amount of torque would give a perfect seal.

It's good to know that filters can be left on through multiple oil changes on most modern engines. Some manufacturers actually recommend this practice. Mobil 1 rates their filters at 20,000 miles.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted by Baveux
Hi, If I want to use my oil filter twice can I safely remove my XG10575 in order to drain it before adding new fresh oil in my engine ? Am I looking for creating more chance for an oil leak ?...
Maybe and yes.

If one is going to use a filter for more than one oci, best practice says leave it in place. As noted, removal increases chance of compromising the sealing gasket.

 

[TheLawnRanger]

It's done all the time and people get away with it. It seems like the the filter wouldn't do its job as well for at least the second half of the second OCI, although I can't prove it. Also, I agree with others who say it's not really difficult or expensive to go ahead and change the filter while changing the oil.

 

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

Go for it.

 

[JLTD]

Originally Posted by TheLawnRanger
It's done all the time and people get away with it. It seems like the the filter wouldn't do its job as well for at least the second half of the second OCI, although I can't prove it. Also, I agree with others who say it's not really difficult or expensive to go ahead and change the filter while changing the oil.



Until it goes into bypass, the filter will filter as good as new (or possibly better, this part is debate worthy).

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by JLTD
Originally Posted by TheLawnRanger
It's done all the time and people get away with it. It seems like the the filter wouldn't do its job as well for at least the second half of the second OCI, although I can't prove it. Also, I agree with others who say it's not really difficult or expensive to go ahead and change the filter while changing the oil.

Until it goes into bypass, the filter will filter as good as new (or possibly better, this part is debate worthy).


Not always if at all because it depends on the media's ability to hold captured particles as it loads up and the delta-p increases.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...more-important-oil-or-filter#Post5055866

 

[Baveux]

Well thanks guys .... I guess that my frenchglish was not good enough , some guy misunderstood my intention .

I basically wanted to use the XG for what it is designed to do .... 32000 km

I wasnt sure if the seal would remain intact or if I could safely remove it to drain it prior reinstall.

The idea was also to use a very well made filter and to get the full benefit of the price paid for this filter. the I can realise now that it wont hurt anything if I leave it on with a bit of old oil it and that I wont hrm the engine .

Some suggest to buy a cheaper filter and to repalce it at every oil change, yes its an option but.... is the XG better than a cheap filter even if used to full capacity ? I think so.

So to make it clear , its not about money I can easily afford the filter and the amount that I want.

So ... hopefully i was explaining my intention better in this post

So Ill keep using Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 following my OLM , I will use 2x the XG10575 without removing it,

Why ? because I beleive that Ill get a better filtration reusing the XG that I would get from a regular fram Motorcraft or wix changed at every oil change . Best filtration for the same money after 2 intervall.

 

[4wd]

Qui Sir Merci …

 

[JLTD]

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by JLTD
Originally Posted by TheLawnRanger
It's done all the time and people get away with it. It seems like the the filter wouldn't do its job as well for at least the second half of the second OCI, although I can't prove it. Also, I agree with others who say it's not really difficult or expensive to go ahead and change the filter while changing the oil.

Until it goes into bypass, the filter will filter as good as new (or possibly better, this part is debate worthy).


Not always if at all because it depends on the media's ability to hold captured particles as it loads up and the delta-p increases.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...more-important-oil-or-filter#Post5055866


Thanks for the link. I see the graph's explanation says that "sometimes" efficiency decreases...I winder what conditions or filters bring that on...

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted by Baveux
Well thanks guys .... I guess that my frenchglish was not good enough , some guy misunderstood my intention .

I basically wanted to use the XG for what it is designed to do .... 32000 km

I wasnt sure if the seal would remain intact or if I could safely remove it to drain it prior reinstall.

The idea was also to use a very well made filter and to get the full benefit of the price paid for this filter. the I can realise now that it wont hurt anything if I leave it on with a bit of old oil it and that I wont hrm the engine .

Some suggest to buy a cheaper filter and to repalce it at every oil change, yes its an option but.... is the XG better than a cheap filter even if used to full capacity ? I think so.

So to make it clear , its not about money I can easily afford the filter and the amount that I want.

So ... hopefully i was explaining my intention better in this post

So Ill keep using Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 following my OLM , I will use 2x the XG10575 without removing it,

Why ? because I beleive that Ill get a better filtration reusing the XG that I would get from a regular fram Motorcraft or wix changed at every oil change . Best filtration for the same money after 2 intervall.

Why do you double-space after virtually every sentence? Why do I even care you do this, being I barely passed English 101 myself?

 

[JLTD]

Made sense to me.

I think his post was MUCH more clear than the idiots' that run huge paragraphs together.

I don't know why I care either.

 

[Baveux]

thanks to all for your input

 

[53' Stude]

Originally Posted by Baveux

thanks to all for your input



Sir, I run tough guards pretty far and for multiple Oci's without issue. The 2 Distance + filters I have I'll run for 2 5k ocis maybe more

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by JLTD
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by JLTD
Originally Posted by TheLawnRanger
It's done all the time and people get away with it. It seems like the the filter wouldn't do its job as well for at least the second half of the second OCI, although I can't prove it. Also, I agree with others who say it's not really difficult or expensive to go ahead and change the filter while changing the oil.

Until it goes into bypass, the filter will filter as good as new (or possibly better, this part is debate worthy).

Not always if at all because it depends on the media's ability to hold captured particles as it loads up and the delta-p increases.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...more-important-oil-or-filter#Post5055866

Thanks for the link. I see the graph's explanation says that "sometimes" efficiency decreases...I winder what conditions or filters bring that on...


Based on how the ISO 4548-12 test defines the efficiency rating (the average efficiency from new to loaded to almost bypass delta-p), a filter that is rated at high efficiency can't by definition exhibit much (if any) decrease in efficiency as it loads up. That tells me that high rated efficiency filters don't suffer much at all from sloughing off captured particles, and/or they may increase in efficiency with some use. Can't say for sure unless that same test was done and plotted for a high efficiency oil filter. Part of the reason an oil filter might come in with a lower ISO 4548-12 efficiency rating is because it may exhibit debris sloughing as that graph shows. So IMO I'd say if you're going to run a filter for a very long time it's better to use one with a high ISO efficiency rating (and high use/mileage rating) than one with a low efficiency rating.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted by Baveux
Hi, If I want to use my oil filter twice can I safely remove my XG10575 in order to drain it before adding new fresh oil in my engine ? Am I looking for creating more chance for an oil leak ?

one interval using my OLM on my eco 3.5 in my f150 = +- 15000 km or 9300 miles so i would maximize the use of this fine filter .

or should I keep using the fl500s each oil change at the end it would cost just a bit more .

Aw man, this is so tempting!

 

[bullwinkle]

Here we go again...

 

[Baveux]

Originally Posted by bullwinkle
Here we go again...

You dont have too you know ? feel free to look somewhere else