Leave it on for two changes or replace it.
Don't remove a filter and reinstall it.
Don't remove a filter and reinstall it.
If I want to use my filter twice can I
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Can't stop fuel dilution with my purple filter that will stay on for another OCI
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I live on the wild side-my MGM goes THREE 5K OCIs on the same filter, and it doesn't come off. xB has been getting two 10K OCIs on it's XG3600 (when it doesn't get dented).
That's past my 2X limit since I already know that a quart is stranded when I don't pull the filter …
I live on the wild side-my MGM goes THREE 5K OCIs on the same filter, and it doesn't come off. xB has been getting two 10K OCIs on it's XG3600 (when it doesn't get dented).
That's past my 2X limit since I already know that a quart is stranded when I don't pull the filter …
I don't get it, why cheap out on the thing that ensures your engine has the best chance of lasting? Is it a game or can't you afford a filter maybe every 6 months?
Originally Posted by addyguy
You go to all this work, all these steps, and while you are under there you don't bother to, or want to, take the extra 3-4 mins to unscrew the oil filter, and then screw on a new filter.
If you are going to all this work, why not just do the freaking filter while you are there?!?!
I think a lot of people who run a filter twice is because the oil filter is a royal pain to change. I've had a few cars like that, ie, filter mounted and buried on the back side of the engine between the engine and firewall ... very hard and messy to change it.
You go to all this work, all these steps, and while you are under there you don't bother to, or want to, take the extra 3-4 mins to unscrew the oil filter, and then screw on a new filter.
If you are going to all this work, why not just do the freaking filter while you are there?!?!
I think a lot of people who run a filter twice is because the oil filter is a royal pain to change. I've had a few cars like that, ie, filter mounted and buried on the back side of the engine between the engine and firewall ... very hard and messy to change it.
Originally Posted by addyguy
Not trying to be rude, but I really don't understand this process:
You plan an oil change, get all your tools/ramps/oil out. You get the car/truck up onto ramps, or onto a set of jack stands, get a drain pan under it plus maybe a catch mat.
You climb under the vehicle with a wrench and wrench off the drain plug, drain the oil, let it drip...etc...
You go to all this work, all these steps, and while you are under there you don't bother to, or want to, take the extra 3-4 mins to unscrew the oil filter, and then screw on a new filter.
If you are going to all this work, why not just do the freaking filter while you are there?!?!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it. If you want to get the full life out of a long life filter, just buy an oil that will do 15-20k, and run oil and filter that long.
Wow did i struck a nerve lol....
1 the xg filter cost twice as much as the motorcraft
2 not harder to remove and to reinstall a old filter
3 the job is done during the regular oil change
Im not sure to understand why you get all excited
Not trying to be rude, but I really don't understand this process:
You plan an oil change, get all your tools/ramps/oil out. You get the car/truck up onto ramps, or onto a set of jack stands, get a drain pan under it plus maybe a catch mat.
You climb under the vehicle with a wrench and wrench off the drain plug, drain the oil, let it drip...etc...
You go to all this work, all these steps, and while you are under there you don't bother to, or want to, take the extra 3-4 mins to unscrew the oil filter, and then screw on a new filter.
If you are going to all this work, why not just do the freaking filter while you are there?!?!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it. If you want to get the full life out of a long life filter, just buy an oil that will do 15-20k, and run oil and filter that long.
Wow did i struck a nerve lol....
1 the xg filter cost twice as much as the motorcraft
2 not harder to remove and to reinstall a old filter
3 the job is done during the regular oil change
Im not sure to understand why you get all excited
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Originally Posted by 928
I don't get it, why cheap out on the thing that ensures your engine has the best chance of lasting? Is it a game or can't you afford a filter maybe every 6 months?
Didn't BrocL mention CA required extended use ?
I don't get it, why cheap out on the thing that ensures your engine has the best chance of lasting? Is it a game or can't you afford a filter maybe every 6 months?
Didn't BrocL mention CA required extended use ?
15,000+ miles on this TG10575:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...39/fram-tg10575-cut-open-15-000-mi-2-oci
It could have gone a lot longer, I suppose.
Back in the middle 1990's... I ran a Motorcraft FL-1A for 30,000 miles in a F250 with a 400M 2-bbl engine. (3X OCI's at 10K each)
It was just fine when I cut it open -
it had some large chunks of "carbon" (between the pleats) that were just the right size to go through the oil pick-up screen.
Not a trace of sludge anywhere.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...39/fram-tg10575-cut-open-15-000-mi-2-oci
It could have gone a lot longer, I suppose.
Back in the middle 1990's... I ran a Motorcraft FL-1A for 30,000 miles in a F250 with a 400M 2-bbl engine. (3X OCI's at 10K each)
It was just fine when I cut it open -
it had some large chunks of "carbon" (between the pleats) that were just the right size to go through the oil pick-up screen.
Not a trace of sludge anywhere.
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
Leave it on for two changes or replace it.
Don't remove a filter and reinstall it.
I agree. I do leave the filter on the Accord for a second oil change interval as Honda recommends.
I also do it on the BMW as I put very few miles on the car and change the oil based on time.Those filters always look great when they come out.
Leave it on for two changes or replace it.
Don't remove a filter and reinstall it.
I agree. I do leave the filter on the Accord for a second oil change interval as Honda recommends.
I also do it on the BMW as I put very few miles on the car and change the oil based on time.Those filters always look great when they come out.
Originally Posted by Baveux
Hi, If I want to use my oil filter twice can I safely remove my XG10575 in order to drain it before adding new fresh oil in my engine ? Am I looking for creating more chance for an oil leak ?
one interval using my OLM on my eco 3.5 in my f150 = +- 15000 km or 9300 miles so i would maximize the use of this fine filter .
or should I keep using the fl500s each oil change at the end it would cost just a bit more .
Or you can use a less expensive filter........
Or you can use a motor oil advertised for extended oil change intervals.......
Or you can use the Motorcraft twice.......
Or you can contact Fram, and ask them how to properly use the filter twice......
Or you can consult with Ford in regards to reusing an oil filter......
Or you can........do whatever you want. Before asking, you already knew what the answers would be from online forum posters.
Hi, If I want to use my oil filter twice can I safely remove my XG10575 in order to drain it before adding new fresh oil in my engine ? Am I looking for creating more chance for an oil leak ?
one interval using my OLM on my eco 3.5 in my f150 = +- 15000 km or 9300 miles so i would maximize the use of this fine filter .
or should I keep using the fl500s each oil change at the end it would cost just a bit more .
Or you can use a less expensive filter........
Or you can use a motor oil advertised for extended oil change intervals.......
Or you can use the Motorcraft twice.......
Or you can contact Fram, and ask them how to properly use the filter twice......
Or you can consult with Ford in regards to reusing an oil filter......
Or you can........do whatever you want. Before asking, you already knew what the answers would be from online forum posters.
If you like your filter, you can keep your filter. Don't remove it, you risk damaging the gasket and causing leaks for the rest of its life. The reward is not worth the risk.
Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
If you like your filter, you can keep your filter. Don't remove it, you risk damaging the gasket and causing leaks for the rest of its life. The reward is not worth the risk.
Very well said
If you like your filter, you can keep your filter. Don't remove it, you risk damaging the gasket and causing leaks for the rest of its life. The reward is not worth the risk.
Very well said
Changing the oil filter doubles my oil change time. It has to be pre-filled 14oz. Then getting the old one off always spills about 1/3 of it all over the K frame, the shield for exhaust pipe, and my hand/arm. Cleanup takes 10 minutes and there's always some left to drip on the driveway for the next few drives. I can change the oil w/o the ramps as you only need access to the drain plug. But the filter change requires more setup and more clean up. Hence I use the Fram Ultra and get 2 OCI's out of it - 8K to 12K miles for me.
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Originally Posted by 69GTX
Changing the oil filter doubles my oil change time. It has to be pre-filled 14oz. Then getting the old one off always spills about 1/3 of it all over the K frame, the shield for exhaust pipe, and my hand/arm. Cleanup takes 10 minutes and there's always some left to drip on the driveway for the next few drives. I can change the oil w/o the ramps as you only need access to the drain plug. But the filter change requires more setup and more clean up. Hence I use the Fram Ultra and get 2 OCI's out of it - 8K to 12K miles for me.
Take it in and get the oil changed.
Changing the oil filter doubles my oil change time. It has to be pre-filled 14oz. Then getting the old one off always spills about 1/3 of it all over the K frame, the shield for exhaust pipe, and my hand/arm. Cleanup takes 10 minutes and there's always some left to drip on the driveway for the next few drives. I can change the oil w/o the ramps as you only need access to the drain plug. But the filter change requires more setup and more clean up. Hence I use the Fram Ultra and get 2 OCI's out of it - 8K to 12K miles for me.
I bought a Honda years ago. Right there in the manual, it said change the oil filter every other oil change. Hmmmm, I said. I don't know about that.
I tried it. The car didn't mind. I kept doing it.
Never take the oil filter off to "drain" it. Consider the o ring seal a one time use seal. Don't brake the seal. If you do take an oil filter off, you have already done all the work, you might as well put a new one back in its place. You are not leaving "dirty oil" in your engine. There is plenty of "dirty oil" in your engine that doesn't get changed out every time you change your oil. The only difference, by reusing the filter, is that perhaps a few ounces of oil will be left in your engine. So the starting TBN is 9.99, instead of 10 had you changed your filter. Big deal ....
I've been following this maintenance plan now for 20 years. Hundreds of thousands of miles... I use premium filters, and change the oil filter every other. And its perfectly fine. Changing the oil filter at every oil change is a waste of money, time, and resources.
I tried it. The car didn't mind. I kept doing it.
Never take the oil filter off to "drain" it. Consider the o ring seal a one time use seal. Don't brake the seal. If you do take an oil filter off, you have already done all the work, you might as well put a new one back in its place. You are not leaving "dirty oil" in your engine. There is plenty of "dirty oil" in your engine that doesn't get changed out every time you change your oil. The only difference, by reusing the filter, is that perhaps a few ounces of oil will be left in your engine. So the starting TBN is 9.99, instead of 10 had you changed your filter. Big deal ....
I've been following this maintenance plan now for 20 years. Hundreds of thousands of miles... I use premium filters, and change the oil filter every other. And its perfectly fine. Changing the oil filter at every oil change is a waste of money, time, and resources.
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Originally Posted by Malo83
Originally Posted by 69GTX
Changing the oil filter doubles my oil change time. It has to be pre-filled 14oz. Then getting the old one off always spills about 1/3 of it all over the K frame, the shield for exhaust pipe, and my hand/arm. Cleanup takes 10 minutes and there's always some left to drip on the driveway for the next few drives. I can change the oil w/o the ramps as you only need access to the drain plug. But the filter change requires more setup and more clean up. Hence I use the Fram Ultra and get 2 OCI's out of it - 8K to 12K miles for me.
Take it in and get the oil changed.
Heresy!!
Originally Posted by addyguy
Not trying to be rude, but I really don't understand this process:
You plan an oil change, get all your tools/ramps/oil out. You get the car/truck up onto ramps, or onto a set of jack stands, get a drain pan under it plus maybe a catch mat.
You climb under the vehicle with a wrench and wrench off the drain plug, drain the oil, let it drip...etc...
You go to all this work, all these steps, and while you are under there you don't bother to, or want to, take the extra 3-4 mins to unscrew the oil filter, and then screw on a new filter.
If you are going to all this work, why not just do the freaking filter while you are there?!?!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it. If you want to get the full life out of a long life filter, just buy an oil that will do 15-20k, and run oil and filter that long.
Although I agree with you on the principle of doing it all at once, on some vehicles you can reach the drain plug easily so OP's plan makes sense. No sense using an Ultra for only 4-5000 miles, get your money's worth and leave it on for 20000 miles.
Originally Posted by 69GTX
Changing the oil filter doubles my oil change time. It has to be pre-filled 14oz. Then getting the old one off always spills about 1/3 of it all over the K frame, the shield for exhaust pipe, and my hand/arm. Cleanup takes 10 minutes and there's always some left to drip on the driveway for the next few drives. I can change the oil w/o the ramps as you only need access to the drain plug. But the filter change requires more setup and more clean up. Hence I use the Fram Ultra and get 2 OCI's out of it - 8K to 12K miles for me.
Heresy!!
Originally Posted by addyguy
Not trying to be rude, but I really don't understand this process:
You plan an oil change, get all your tools/ramps/oil out. You get the car/truck up onto ramps, or onto a set of jack stands, get a drain pan under it plus maybe a catch mat.
You climb under the vehicle with a wrench and wrench off the drain plug, drain the oil, let it drip...etc...
You go to all this work, all these steps, and while you are under there you don't bother to, or want to, take the extra 3-4 mins to unscrew the oil filter, and then screw on a new filter.
If you are going to all this work, why not just do the freaking filter while you are there?!?!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it. If you want to get the full life out of a long life filter, just buy an oil that will do 15-20k, and run oil and filter that long.
Although I agree with you on the principle of doing it all at once, on some vehicles you can reach the drain plug easily so OP's plan makes sense. No sense using an Ultra for only 4-5000 miles, get your money's worth and leave it on for 20000 miles.
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