Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by maxdustington
With the announcement of the wall funding bill and immigration being a major influence on the coming election, it is good to see that the US is finally locking down their borders. Illegal immigration is causing major political upheaval across the globe, most recently in Quebec.
Border control is not orwellian! Civil/human rights inflation has gotten wayyy out of control in the western world. Sovereignty requires the ability to secure a nation's border, to keep the riff raff out. Ever since Trump was elected he has lead the US to victory after victory, especially economically. No matter your political ideologies/affiliation, curbing illegal immigration is how the middle class will be rebuilt in the US.
Sure but at the cost of privacy to citizens? I don't get it. U.S. citizens would be the first to balk at their rights being taken away and being less "free" yet you are ok with this kind of snooping? It's not about being a legal citizen and having nothing to hide, it's about the government being able to track your travel without a warrant. If it was tracked and encrypted but they needed a warrant to gain access to it should they need to prove something like a murder etc. then fine but not just at will.
If you have nothing to hide who cares? Thats my view, to an extent.
Originally Posted by maxdustington
With the announcement of the wall funding bill and immigration being a major influence on the coming election, it is good to see that the US is finally locking down their borders. Illegal immigration is causing major political upheaval across the globe, most recently in Quebec.
Border control is not orwellian! Civil/human rights inflation has gotten wayyy out of control in the western world. Sovereignty requires the ability to secure a nation's border, to keep the riff raff out. Ever since Trump was elected he has lead the US to victory after victory, especially economically. No matter your political ideologies/affiliation, curbing illegal immigration is how the middle class will be rebuilt in the US.
Sure but at the cost of privacy to citizens? I don't get it. U.S. citizens would be the first to balk at their rights being taken away and being less "free" yet you are ok with this kind of snooping? It's not about being a legal citizen and having nothing to hide, it's about the government being able to track your travel without a warrant. If it was tracked and encrypted but they needed a warrant to gain access to it should they need to prove something like a murder etc. then fine but not just at will.
If you have nothing to hide who cares? Thats my view, to an extent.