edyvw
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Yeah, it is "weird," to say the least.
i3 Neue Klasse selling out?
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Personally, I can't wait to see the real thing. Pricing, trim and performance level, etc. It seems to have a bigish battery. Weight will be interesting. Of course EV weight is somewhat different because the battery sits low, but just the same...
I wonder what BMW's goal might be here?
Merely taking higher end EV sales away from other makers is probably a significant part of it.
BMW is an aspirational brand in a way that Tesla simply isn't.
I hope this car proves to be as good as it seems and does well.
BMW does have a lot riding on this.
Merely taking higher end EV sales away from other makers is probably a significant part of it.
BMW is an aspirational brand in a way that Tesla simply isn't.
I hope this car proves to be as good as it seems and does well.
BMW does have a lot riding on this.
You might be surprised.
Many Tesla sales are BMW owners who switched to Tesla, driven by advanced electric vehicle technology, among other things.
Industry data shows a steady percentage of luxury vehicle households—including roughly 7.5% of BMW owners—migrating to Tesla brands.
I understand BITOG generally does not think well of Tesla as a car company, but these cars are amazing. Ask an owner, and ask them what they had before.
7.5%? OMG, the sky is falling!
I know that owners like their Teslas and I'm seriously thinking about one.
Until you've owned and driven a stick BMW, your really don't have a good frame of reference.
No Tesla nor Japanese car compares for the sheer joy of driving one.
That's your opinion, which you are welcome to.
I've owned a stick BMW as well...
edyvw
$50 site donor 2026
7.5% is really not a flex.
That accounts for people who generally are not brand loyal.
True but Tesla owners tend to be quite loyal. It takes a lot to make people switch
edyvw
$50 site donor 2026
7.5%? You always have 20-30% of customers that switch brands. And considering Tesla sales performance last two years, people are faster to drop it than other, more established brands.
I don't know a single person who has traded a Tesla that didn't buy another, but obviously that's a small amount of people I know with Teslas.
edyvw
$50 site donor 2026
I think, I THINK, that is not how statistics work.
Right. I'm just saying I haven't talked to the people who have made the switch. I'd love to. I'd like to hear the why.
So far this year the numbers are shifting. According to companies that track trade-ins like Edmunds eTesla owners are trading in for Toyota hybrids and not for another ev. BMW has sold 50k IX3's and has had roughly double that in additional orders. Tesla owners trading in for Toyota hybrids
Edmunds has tracked a large percentage of Tesla owners trading in for Toyota hybrids.
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Jessica Caldwell, head of insights at Edmunds, said, "Toyota is the clear top beneficiary here when we look at Tesla trade-ins to dealerships, with hybrids emerging as the fastest-growing category among Tesla defectors."
Former Tesla owners are also much less likely than before to replace their cars with another EV."
edyvw
$50 site donor 2026
Idk, political issues, same old design, not anymore having best EV technology, and, as I said few years back, “good ole boys,” who actually make cars not iPads.
I would never buy another brand than Tesla right now. When someone has something that has an interface that doesn't require CarPlay or Android Auto to not suck and has something equivalent to FSD(no one does) then I would consider it.
Honestly I'd be fine with Android Auto if someone else gets the rest right, but even referencing GM's Supercruise or Ford's Blue Cruise, they are basically only highway only use. I can't imagine driving a Tesla, actually using these features, and going back to commuting in an ox cart. In addition to that I'd be happy to never pump gas again. I used to pump gas twice a week and I haven't done that in two years and nine months now.
edyvw
$50 site donor 2026
Mercedes has better FSD.
The political issues one is the dumbest one. It's not even worth mentioning, but you're right that many will cite that as their reason. I won't even get into that one, but throwing out the rest of how good the car is over some feelings is just wild to me.
Not the best EV technology? What, because it doesn't charge as fast as a couple other options? It's the most efficient EV on the market and it more than makes up for charging 2 minutes slower than the competition that costs twice as much. That 800v architecture is better on paper than it is in reality even moreso hindered by the charging network.
The automotive buying public is a fickle bunch.
I couldn't be paid enough to go back to pumping gas and a hybrid is about the worst compromise on the market for my use. It's a half measure for those afraid of a charge plug. My wife and I have driven a combined 4k miles in the last 30 days on two EVs and not once was there a charging issue with Tesla's Supercharger network. One of those was more than 800 miles in one day all on FSD. We're driving in rural areas long distance and not having problems. I don't know of a worse possible driving environment to be in with EVs and we've never run out of charge. I don't know what people are doing to get this wrong.
This 566 miles FSD streak was from that 800+ mile day. It didn't need a single intervention to do that and it wasn't trying to avoid intervening.
So it will drive me from my driveway to the parking lot at the store and pick the parking spot without a single input from me?
Yeah, no it doesn't.
edyvw
$50 site donor 2026
Cult is strange thing.
