I cannot speak for Amsoil but I'm pretty sure you would never get that kind of response from Shell/Pennzoil. As a matter of fact, I would almost bet a pension check on it.
I took the YB leap!
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I am certain about that Johnny! Just seeing all the time you spend on this board shows you had/have a passion for what you do. That speaks volumes for you and any company that employed you!
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I guess you've read through the M1 Vs Valvoline posts.
I have read them indeed, Frank D. I then held my head in my hands and just thought "Ok ok, these guys are Bilderberg conspiracy guys, they're just 'hatin' on the big dog"... (Sorry Guys) but, My vehicle is very very -very- near and dear to me; we can't do anything without a reliable vehicle in non-urban areas anymore. The h#ll with all that... THEY DON'T MEET THE SPECS!!! Man and to think I bought those green cap Jugs with abandon.
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I guess you've read through the M1 Vs Valvoline posts.
I have read them indeed, Frank D. I then held my head in my hands and just thought "Ok ok, these guys are Bilderberg conspiracy guys, they're just 'hatin' on the big dog"... (Sorry Guys) but, My vehicle is very very -very- near and dear to me; we can't do anything without a reliable vehicle in non-urban areas anymore. The h#ll with all that... THEY DON'T MEET THE SPECS!!! Man and to think I bought those green cap Jugs with abandon.
BITOG Rules.
God Bless America.
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yb has been the way to go for some time now
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YB 20W50 definitetly rocks! One of the best oils I`ve ever used.
I sure as heck, hope I agree with both of you. Can't wait to try it out when my buddy's wifes at work and I have the garage to my self.
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You won't be disappointed!
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Well, I guess I'll be the lone wolf here in thinking that you're making a move backwards here. With the harsh winters you can have and just overall low temps, just why would you go from a Sythetic oil to a conventional oil??? Any syn will work better at the temp extremes, hot or cold. I want my oil circulating in my engine asap. I'm not concerned here about the brands, I do like and use Mobil 1 and YB is a good conventional oil. I'd rather see you keep with the syn oil - even Penn's own Platinum, which is well respected here and value priced quite often. Just for the record, I've used nothing but Mobil 1 in my 2 Jeeps. 5w30 winters and 10w30 summers, like another poster does. One jeep is a 4.0 and one is a 258.
For my truck, YB wasn't performing as well as I would have hoped.
I had 5w30 Pennzoil Conventional in my 2002 4.0L V6 Explorer for ~1500 miles which had 62,000 miles. While the wear metals was a bit higher than the "universal" averages, the TBN of the YB was down to 2.7 after this short run. There is no way the YB would make it to the 5,000 mile Ford recommended OCI. Here is the UOA.
So my experience with Pennzoil Conventional was merely OK rather than good or great. I now have AMSOIL Signature Series 0w30 in the truck with Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 as a second choice should I decide to switch from Amsoil.
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I had 5w30 Pennzoil Conventional in my 2002 4.0L V6 Explorer for ~1500 miles which had 62,000 miles. While the wear metals was a bit higher than the "universal" averages, the TBN of the YB was down to 2.7 after this short run. There is no way the YB would make it to the 5,000 mile Ford recommended OCI. Here is the UOA.
So my experience with Pennzoil Conventional was merely OK rather than good or great. I now have AMSOIL Signature Series 0w30 in the truck with Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 as a second choice should I decide to switch from Amsoil.
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Originally Posted By: GMBoy
...5W/30 winters and 10w30 summers...
Hey GM Boy. Ok I feel the same way about going to a dino, and I'll take your word on using a 5-30. In my anti-Mobil 1 stage, I'll go with Pennzoil Platinum, (where's that WallyWord reciept...) but since we're at it, & you have 2 Jeeps your self, what would you say about me going to a 0-30, or 0-40 synth.? I want that 0 EVERYWHERE ASAP too.
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...5W/30 winters and 10w30 summers...
Hey GM Boy. Ok I feel the same way about going to a dino, and I'll take your word on using a 5-30. In my anti-Mobil 1 stage, I'll go with Pennzoil Platinum, (where's that WallyWord reciept...) but since we're at it, & you have 2 Jeeps your self, what would you say about me going to a 0-30, or 0-40 synth.? I want that 0 EVERYWHERE ASAP too.
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Sorry to let yous guys down... but I'm 2nd guessing my choice, with that Mobil 1 0w30 (Advanced Fuel Economy) at Walmart for $16 after my $10 Mobil 1 rebate... GM Boy's right, why go Dino after using synth; especially when freezing weather's headed in. Man I need some here fella's. Please. Why cant I find that dang receipt!! ;-(
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I think that Mobli 1 $10 rebate deal starts April 1, 2009, double check to be sure.
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
The Mobli 1 $10 rebate starts April 1, 2009. -Frank D
Frank D, Demar: Thanks. Pennzoil it is...
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The Mobli 1 $10 rebate starts April 1, 2009. -Frank D
Frank D, Demar: Thanks. Pennzoil it is...
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No problem, you'll be happy. I'm running the Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 in my E-150 after almost 20 of Mobil 1.
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ooh ooh, Frank D; Should I keep with the YB and the Mopar or Fram filter, or should I trade it in for a jug of Pennzoil Platinum 0w40 and pay the $3-$5??
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02' Wrangler 4.oL 90k miles
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Originally Posted By: ARMY_Guy
Sorry to let yous guys down... but I'm 2nd guessing my choice, with that Mobil 1 0w30 (Advanced Fuel Economy) at Walmart for $16 after my $10 Mobil 1 rebate... GM Boy's right, why go Dino after using synth; especially when freezing weather's headed in. Man I need some here fella's. Please. Why cant I find that dang receipt!! ;-(
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You could poo in the valve cover and your 4.0L would run fine. Dino, syn, it doesn't matter much with a 2.5L/258/4.0L engine. Some of the best used oil analysis I've seen are on dino. I wouldn't run a 20 weight if your Jeep sees any decent trail time, but in a daily driver it would probably be fine in winter. In spring/summer/fall, I use SAE30, 10W40, or 15W40. It's all good.
Sorry to let yous guys down... but I'm 2nd guessing my choice, with that Mobil 1 0w30 (Advanced Fuel Economy) at Walmart for $16 after my $10 Mobil 1 rebate... GM Boy's right, why go Dino after using synth; especially when freezing weather's headed in. Man I need some here fella's. Please. Why cant I find that dang receipt!! ;-(
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You could poo in the valve cover and your 4.0L would run fine. Dino, syn, it doesn't matter much with a 2.5L/258/4.0L engine. Some of the best used oil analysis I've seen are on dino. I wouldn't run a 20 weight if your Jeep sees any decent trail time, but in a daily driver it would probably be fine in winter. In spring/summer/fall, I use SAE30, 10W40, or 15W40. It's all good.
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You could poo in the valve cover and your 4.0L would run fine.
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Thanks Man, 40 in the summer sounds great.
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You could poo in the valve cover and your 4.0L would run fine.
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PS:
1) Is Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy any good?
2) Is it tainted like the typical Mobil 1 5w30?
3) Would it work for my application?
4) Can oil be too thin (ie, 5-30 in a Wrangler requiring 5-40)?
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02' Wrangler 4.oL 90k miles
EDIT: Doh! Johnny said its a no-go so its a no-go. (Nevermind #4)
1) Is Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy any good?
2) Is it tainted like the typical Mobil 1 5w30?
3) Would it work for my application?
4) Can oil be too thin (ie, 5-30 in a Wrangler requiring 5-40)?
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02' Wrangler 4.oL 90k miles
EDIT: Doh! Johnny said its a no-go so its a no-go. (Nevermind #4)
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