I see many diesel trucks spewing black soot...

[dlayman]

Originally Posted By: Delta
Originally Posted By: Miller88
BRO, do you even TRUCK!?!?!? This is my CUMMINGS DURASTROKE and I gots my tow mirrors fully extended, my rockstar XD wheels on with Nitto Bro-Grapplers and a cheap stereo blasting Luke Aldean, BRO!


Hahah! That's pretty much it to a T in my small mountain town. Mom and dad buy their kid a diesel truck and they do that stupid junk to them. You can now no-longer find a diesel truck that hasn't been hacked up and a poor tune put on. I really think most are trying to compensate for something...


Same here in my PA mountain town, but it's usually the "father" driving the POS and"compensating". Or else doing so with their Harley, with the seat 10% the size of their butt, and 5% as large as the butt of the woman riding on their back.

 

[eljefino]

Originally Posted By: 2004tdigls
the solution is simple, mandatory emission testing of all road vehicles

the loosers who roll coal will be caught for emissions tampering and their trucks will be taken off the road

you would never get away with this pollution in California

I await the replies from the "liberty crowd" who view smog tests as a "scam" or "tax"


My state only lets you blow smoke for 4 seconds (gas) or a certain opacity (diesel.) Just let the cops use their dashcams to get video and let that be its own evidence. Even if the guy has a trick tune he can deactivate before the cop finishes pulling him over the tape should be plenty of evidence.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: Miller88
Originally Posted By: JTK
I marvel at how these young fellas have the resources to buy and maintain these coal-rolling fuel guzzlers. I see it in my area too. One jackazz lives down the road from me with a Ford w/ open exhaust and he must have just a cone air filter right on the inlet of the turbo compressor. Lord if that isn't obnoxious.


I have a feeling that their monthly payments are nearly as much as their income.

Or parents are paying for it.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
One of my trucks has a tune and deletes and smokes a little under hard acceleration.

My other truck has it's DPF/Cat intact and fully operational and smokes a little under hard acceleration.

I guess other states see this as a major problem.

Florida statutes allow a diesel vehicle to emit any amount of smoke under acceleration.

I'm not a fan of coal rolling. It's so dumb. I blow by Rams and Fords "rolling coal" all of the time while emitting nothing visible. I was on the highway last weekend behind a truck that was blowing huge clouds every time it accelerated to jockey for position. I glided right by him with no smoke coming out.

As for going gas over diesel? Sure. Enjoy never hauling really heavy stuff.


Ford rates a gas engine to tow 18,000lbs. Dodge rates the 6.4 Hemi to tow 17K. Diesel has jumped the shark.

 

[Jetronic]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Killer223
they are mostly uneducated kids. the soot falls to the ground in moments after leaving the tail pipe. so it's really not near as bad as the gas engine exhaust. larger injectors and slow spooling turbos will get black soot.

Really? Diesels are notorious for NoX, which is not regular compound in air and very aggressive gas that cause cancer.
There is a reason why new diesels are using SCR emission system and gasoline engines do not.


But a diesel producing soot like that isn't producig any significant amounts of NOx, as there's no surplus oxygen...

 

[Andrew1972]

It's childish enough.

However I notice these morons feel the need to occasionally drive crazy to prove their vehicle is worth it and the payment is worth it.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Originally Posted By: madRiver
It's childish enough.

However I notice these morons feel the need to occasionally drive crazy to prove their vehicle is worth it and the payment is worth it.


A few years ago I was at the state fair and trying to park in the grass parking lot. They were "muddin" in the grass parking lot and drinking their beer and stuff. Asinine behavior. There was a Luke Aldean concert or something on on so it attracted all of them.

I came through with my Jeep and they were trying to get me to go muddin and hit it hard. I put it right in 4lo and walked through as slow as possible. Sorry, but I'm not having anything to do with it and I don't want to get dirty so I end up in trouble for their a--hattery.

I only go for the free concerts so I must have been going to see the Gatlin Brothers, the Oak Ridge boys or Vince Gill. Can't remember which one, exactly. I'm sure all of them who were going to see a "country" band had never heard of who I was going to see.

 

[gman2304]

I'm so glad I did nothing dumb, stupid, childish or irresponsible when I was young. The kids today!

 

[horse123]

Originally Posted By: 2004tdigls
no not really, all the inspectors have to do is put the truck up on the hoist to see that the cat converter, egr system or dpf system has been removed (which is rampant in the tuner crowd) and then issue an instant fail for tampering


Good thing I don't live in CA honeybuns

Pretty sure it's going to be illegal to breathe there without a CO2 to O2 converter on your face some day in the future.

 

[justalubetech]

In my area it's always late 30's - early 40 somethings with their backwards hat and broshades lol, and they're always driving like [censored]. The trend does seem to be going away slowly though (thankfully), used to see quite a few every time I went to town, now it's just the occasional bro-truck driver

 

[dlayman]

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[DoubleWasp]

Originally Posted By: 2004tdigls
no not really, all the inspectors have to do is put the truck up on the hoist to see that the cat converter, egr system or dpf system has been removed (which is rampant in the tuner crowd) and then issue an instant fail for tampering


You must not visit any of the diesel sites. There are plenty who reinstall everything just for the test, and take it all back off again.

 

[DoubleWasp]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
One of my trucks has a tune and deletes and smokes a little under hard acceleration.

My other truck has it's DPF/Cat intact and fully operational and smokes a little under hard acceleration.

I guess other states see this as a major problem.

Florida statutes allow a diesel vehicle to emit any amount of smoke under acceleration.

I'm not a fan of coal rolling. It's so dumb. I blow by Rams and Fords "rolling coal" all of the time while emitting nothing visible. I was on the highway last weekend behind a truck that was blowing huge clouds every time it accelerated to jockey for position. I glided right by him with no smoke coming out.

As for going gas over diesel? Sure. Enjoy never hauling really heavy stuff.


Ford rates a gas engine to tow 18,000lbs. Dodge rates the 6.4 Hemi to tow 17K. Diesel has jumped the shark.


I wonder why you left out the diesel tow ratings.......

 

[demarpaint]

I never understood the need to roll coal. It gives diesel engines a bad name.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I never understood the need to roll coal. It gives diesel engines a bad name.


Not to mention the drivers.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
One of my trucks has a tune and deletes and smokes a little under hard acceleration.

My other truck has it's DPF/Cat intact and fully operational and smokes a little under hard acceleration.

I guess other states see this as a major problem.

Florida statutes allow a diesel vehicle to emit any amount of smoke under acceleration.

I'm not a fan of coal rolling. It's so dumb. I blow by Rams and Fords "rolling coal" all of the time while emitting nothing visible. I was on the highway last weekend behind a truck that was blowing huge clouds every time it accelerated to jockey for position. I glided right by him with no smoke coming out.

As for going gas over diesel? Sure. Enjoy never hauling really heavy stuff.


Ford rates a gas engine to tow 18,000lbs. Dodge rates the 6.4 Hemi to tow 17K. Diesel has jumped the shark.


I wonder why you left out the diesel tow ratings.......


They're irrelevant. And I was wrong...Dodge rates the 6.4 to tow 19,000lbs.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I never understood the need to roll coal. It gives diesel engines a bad name.


Not to mention the drivers.


Good point.

 

[Ramblejam]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
They're irrelevant. And I was wrong...Dodge rates the 6.4 to tow 19,000lbs.


I'd like to see where you pulled that number from...I'm showing 16,520.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The Ram Trucks site...Ram 5500 is rated for 18,980lbs. (Yes, I rounded.) You can only get that rating with the Aisin transmission.

A properly-spec'd V10 F-550 is rated for over 17,000lbs, and the same engine is used in class 7 trucks! (Where, I must point out, it dramatically outpowers the same truck's diesel engine.)

 

[DoubleWasp]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
The Ram Trucks site...Ram 5500 is rated for 18,980lbs. (Yes, I rounded.) You can only get that rating with the Aisin transmission.

A properly-spec'd V10 F-550 is rated for over 17,000lbs, and the same engine is used in class 7 trucks! (Where, I must point out, it dramatically outpowers the same truck's diesel engine.)


Dramatically under-tows the diesel engine, too.

Good job side-stepping the fact that diesel hauls so much more......once again.