What's the real world MPG of that 4Runner? Both city and highway.
I need a long lasting fuel efficient vehicle (not a hybrid, electric, or PHEV)
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My answer is Corolla Cross or HRV.
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Well yes, skid plates help with that but I can also avoid the ford junk too
I don’t live in a big city but my in town mileage is 16-18 and my highway is 20.5-23. Overall I’m averaging 21.0 over 134k miles.
I like the look of the Corolla Cross.
The 2023/24 HRV has a worse EPA rating than the CRV. Both DI iirc. CRV is turbo. We have a 2017 HRV. Surprisingly poor mileage for the size.
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OP wants decent mpg and a vehicle that lasts.
CC and HRV both have durable 2.0L engines.
No Turbo.
No GDI.
I had a VW with a cast oil pan. Guess what they were known for? shattering if hit with anything. They would not deform like a standard stamped metal pan. So watch out for that.
Also I’ve been watching a lot of engine teardowns and it seems oil pans are getting more shallow while they add a lower bedplate. Those bedplates are pretty robust, but are still cast aluminum. Not sure how that enters in here, but want to make sure that you are aware of both.
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My parents have a 2019 kia forte. 2.0l engine, CVT (chain driven). It's been flawless to date, but not driven much. I hopped in one day 2 or 3 years ago and took a pic of the mileage meter, 5.0 l/100 km converts to 47 mpg (all rural/small town driving). Even if its optimistic, 40+ is quite good.
When it comes to engine/transmission, don't know anything about it to be honest. It's now at 20,000+ km but still way to early to talk about longevity.
When it comes to engine/transmission, don't know anything about it to be honest. It's now at 20,000+ km but still way to early to talk about longevity.
I had a hand me down Corolla from my daughter, was an oil burner. I replaced it with a Mazda 3, I currently have 215k on the clock and still strong. I would take that Mazda over the Toyota any day. Much nicer and fun to drive too. I'm even a hardcore Toyota guy.
Reviewers have not been kind to the HRV.....
My comment was based on the previous generation HRV-since the OP didn't rule out used vehicles. The previous generation HRV was quite frankly terrible-another stinker by Honda. The newest one may be OK. As things go on here I don't think the OP will layout what Honda wants-plus mark up on a new one.
I wouldn't totally rule out the Prius. They are pretty solid cars, taxi services in NYC keep them for 400k miles. The Prius is the new Panther.
You may not have first hand experience or know, but when they came out with this body style and powertrain I test drove one and tried to negotiate one down before buying my Mazda 6. I couldn’t stand the way the transmission was programmed to up shift so fast. I think it was lugging around the dealer lot in 3rd at like 10mph. Nothing was wrong, it was just the way it was programmed. I read a lot of noise about it on the internet and everyone suspected they’d update software, but when I bought my Mazda I quit reading up on it.
The new HR-V has a port-injected K20 under the hood. Essentially the same engine that's fitted to the Civic LX and Sport.
I work with a guy that has a 2014 manual. He has 130k on it now and loves it.
My 2012 Impreza (non-lifted crosstrek) had 80,000ish when I sold it. That CVT got a lot of WOT time. The wife's 2012 Outback has 85,000ish miles, and my wife is a lead-foot. Both CVT's work fine.
My CX-5's 6 speed auto works MUCH better, the best auto I've ever driven. My wife is thinking about buying a CX-5, now.
My CX-5's 6 speed auto works MUCH better, the best auto I've ever driven. My wife is thinking about buying a CX-5, now.
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