I looked at this piece of junk yesterday.

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Uggg. My search for a truck is getting frustrating. I looked at this one last night. I realize that I'm looking @ 20 yr old stuff and normal wear and tear will be present.

So when the seller told me that a window does not go down and the paint is faded I couldn't wait to go look at it.

First thing I did was open the hood and check the coolant and oil......"Hmmmmm, can't see any coolant".

On to the oil. Nothing on the stick! Seller rounded up some ST20w50. While he was looking for oil I looked down the oil fill hole.

The 2 rocker arms I could see were caked with brown sludge as was the top of the cylinder head between the rockers.

The OCOD looked to have been on the engine since Clinton was in office. Drain plug covered with grease.

Took 3 qts to bring the oil up to "add". So assuming it's a 5qt system it had 1 qt in the pan and 1 qt in the filter and he's been driving it around pulling a trailer.

The ignition switch is boogered up so it has toggle switches instead.

Tags are expired. This can be a real problem in Ca as the buyer is responsible for back fees and back fees + late fees can easily cost more than the value of the truck.

I'm depressed. It's what I want...v8, 5 speed stick shift, extra cab,4x4 and 4.10 gears but the lack of regular maintenance and unknown registration fees turned me off.
 
I know it can be frustrating looking for a well maintained vehicle. Obviously that seller wasnt a BITOGER!

You'll find what you want, it's called being patient! You'll have to look at a lot of pieces of junk before you get to the gold!

What is your budget for a truck?
 
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Sounds like a good truck to stay away from for sure. you would think people would at least top off the fluids in case somebody checks them.
 
Originally Posted By: JC1
I know it can be frustrating looking for a well maintained vehicle. Obviously that seller wasnt a BITOGER!

You'll find what you want, it's called being patient! You'll have to look at a lot of pieces of junk before you get to the gold!

What is your budget for a truck?
3k unless I sell my big truck.
 
Keep looking, in that age and price range the price should be very negotiable. You may want to pick a little higher priced vehicle and then offer what you can afford to spend.

As you probably know - buying a 4x4 truck that old is a potential minefield of problems.

You might want to think carefully about your wants and needs. Do you really need 4x4? 4x4 adds a lot of weight and complexity. Do you need a full size truck? - gas mileage will be very poor. Going off road, with a truck that old, will likely result in lots of interesting breakdowns and crisis situations.

Here are two that looks a little better on the surface:

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ctd/2857126187.html

Potential BITOG owner:

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2888659683.html
 
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Well, you are a mechanic, so as long as you get it cheap enough, might be worth it......

Old Fords are tough - who knows, flush the engine and coolant system, put some HDEO in it, change it frequently, and it might last just fine.
 
Time for some outside-the-box thinking. Or more accurately, some INSIDE the box (truck) thinking! It's a great bike-hauler (half a dozen bikes, 2-3 quads), it's weathertight, it's lockable, it's air conditioned, it even could be used as a mobile shop:

Fontana, CA, asking $3500.

Also $3500, Fontana.

$3495, a 1996 with 155,000 miles, Fontana.

In Riverside, $2795, a 1994 with 180K.

Same as above, with 167K.

And another, 169K.

$2K for a chassis-cab GMC, if you'd rather build your own hauler?
 
Originally Posted By: 05GMC
saw this ad , dosen`t say anything about gears or trans. though..... good luck in your search. http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2871214377.html


Actually, it says it had a "NEW E4OD" (behind the "new Winsor motor").
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hey I'm new here just joined because I heard this was a great place. that's sad the pictures don't look that bad. but 2200 is to much for what you stated. are you brand specific or will you look at other makes?
 
Originally Posted By: digitalSniperX1
Tell him to give you 500 dollars and you'll take if off his hands. He might say "DEAL!!"


^^ 2nd on this one!
 
What engine is in it?

Worth considering, you could do what a buddy of mine did: Buy it (for WAY lower than what he is asking), and swap out the engine for a low mileage Mustang engine.

I posted the pics on here before of the swap. Basically a sludged out POS 302 came out, and a beauty roller-cammed 302 went in. Engine was 400 bucks. Took us a day to do the swap.

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Out:
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In:
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Engine that went in had 160K on it, and had been run on AMSOIL.
 
Originally Posted By: mva

As you probably know - buying a 4x4 truck that old is a potential minefield of problems.

You might want to think carefully about your wants and needs. Do you really need 4x4? 4x4 adds a lot of weight and complexity. Do you need a full size truck? - gas mileage will be very poor. Going off road, with a truck that old, will likely result in lots of interesting breakdowns and crisis situations.


Yes it must be 4x4. I know some guys swear that a 2wd with mud tires, a locking rear end and a bed full of rocks will ge anywhere a 4x4 will.....They do not know what they are talking about!

Try driving slowly up a sand wash and coming to a solid rock ledge about 18 inches tall. A 2wd will just burry the rear end. A 4x4's front wheels will pull it up the ledge.

Same with a trailer full of quads and a sandy road. 2wd is useless but 4wd will keep moving.

I've had 2wd with a detroit locker and a bed full of rocks and a 2wd will not go anywhere near the places that a 4x4 will even with non locking axles in the 4x4.

Must be atleast a 3/4 ton truck with full floating axles. 1. The local rental places won't rent you a cement mixer or car hauler unless you have a 3/4 or larger truck.

2.If I should break a rear axle with a full floating axle you can still manage to get home or atleast to a spot where a tow truck can pick you up. Break an axle in a 1/2 ton and your whole wheel and drum leave the scene.

Must be an extra cab or 4 door. My girlfriend is 6ft5in and has a hard time getting comfortable in a regular cab.

Must be a stick shift. I personally have had nothing but failure after failure with automatic transmissions. I think I've bench pressed every A/T made while laying in a puddle of ATF more than once.

C4,C6,904,727,TH350,TH400,700R4 and adding coolers and changing fluids did nothing to preserve them. I have yet to break a NP435, T18,T19 or NV manual trans.

The Ford trucks of this vintage are simple to work on. A heater core is a 20 minute job. A heater on a Dodge is a 10 hr job plus the Dodge trucks are plain ugly.

Chevy's have a terribly weak front suspension and need to be aligned after every trip up the sand wash with the rock ledge. Sure the Ford TTB tends to wear tires but it's a very tough fron end. And I have not had much luck with Chevy engines in my past. Burned valves, flat cams, rod knocks, coolant dumped in the oil etc. I had a Chevy push rod come up through a finned aluminum valve cover once!
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Just driving down the highway.

I'm done with carburetors! I can rebuild a Holley or AFB on the side of the road in my sleep.
So this pretty much narrows my choice down to a 88-96 f250 or f350 with an extended cab, 4x4,460 and MT.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142


My girlfriend is 6ft5in and has a hard time getting comfortable in a regular cab.



Wow, you definitely want to keep her happy. My wife is 5'0".

I can't even imagine legs that long!
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