I Imported a car from Japan

Mr Bean's favorite car. (y)
Indeed! - Should have found a lime green one though. Watch out blue Reliant Robins.
Congrats! Finding, buying and importing a car is a bit of a slog but a rewarding experience.

Enjoy.
I agree! It didnt take as long as I thought it was going to take if im honest. They told me 3 months shipping but it boarded the boat in less than 2. I would do it again though, there are some appealing Toyota Diesel trucks in Japan which could be fun...
Very cool. I've thought a few times about buying a car through them. Hmmm.. 🤔
Let me know if you need any pointers or if you decide to pull the trigger. I bought it through carsfromjapan who actually has a good reputation online. I didnt know any of the process going into it and relied on a lot of online guides to get me through it. If you do you home work, its simple. I think the import fees all in with the broker handling the paperwork entirely was about $870. I rented a trailer and drove from Phx to Long Beach so that was some cost in Diesel and a hotel. It could be done cheaper.
Congrats on your find.
Is the right side steering wheel a good thing?
Both sets of keys?
Yes, Right hand drive and yes to both sets of keys. I think I have 3 door keys and 1 ignition key. All the doors and boot are the same key fortunately. RHD is interesting but I dont notice it as much driving surprisingly.
Absolutely goregous. I love the Roadster in the anniversary BRG. I have been lusting for one of these as well. How have you liked the roadster?
I love ours! It's been off the road now for coming up to 2 years needing a suspension refresh. I'll get there eventually.
I'll admit, Ive read through your threads plenty on here (as I was trying to find an oil filter that fits) as there are not alot of MPI minis documented outside of theminiforum and more USA focused. Technically mine is a MPI block with SPI everything else. I will get more pictures later this week.
 
seen some little trucks in articles + they look interesting!!! yours is nice so enjoy + good luck!! almost forgot, prolly not from overseas but early air cooled bugs as well as the KarmanGhias interest me as well!!
 


shortly after this they supercharged the original engine( British sourced kit using the super charger from a newer BMW mini) , couple years later they swapped out that engine and transmission for a Honda B16b, and 6 speed manual.

still not as fun of a build as Project Binky mind you....
 
Nice car and I think well bought for what you got.
These little dears were terrifically rust prone, so a solid original is a real find, especially one with nugatory mileage.
Really neat little car. I hope that you can enjoy it for many miles without a lot of drama.
 
Here is my question, back in the 80s there was a huge "gray market" run on euro cars . It was easy to get one and not very expensive to import say German cars. Tons of importers and then I thought the DOT snuffed that out so it was almost impossible to do. Does anyone know what the DOT law was and I have not heard of many people doing it. I assume if your were rich or had the money anything was possible. But really never saw many true grey market imports after the shut down. To the OPer, Was it tough and costly to do? I assume you needed to add driver door beams if the car is older, since I can only assume Europe has added them by now.
 
I've been debating making this thread but eh why not.

Since I was a young man, I've always liked the Classic Mini. Ive owned a 2005 R53 Cooper S a few years back which I picked up for an absolute steal and really enjoyed the car. With a slight dip in the used car market and a decline in the value of the Yen, I saw the right car come up and decided to purchase it with no prior inspections, dealing with sketchy importers and it taking months to arrive.

I knew what I wanted which was a Mk7 (1997-2001) "classic" Mini with fuel injection and the sports pack (didnt get the sports pack). Buying a classic mini in 2024 is interesting because not only are they almost all old enough to get past the 25 year federal import ban but you have lots of options regarding markets. The various entities that were Morris, BMC, Austin, Rover sold these cars in many markets and they all have little differences on an otherwise same package since its design was completed in 1959. They sold them all over the world and without getting into a history lesson, some are different. One thing they all have in common is Rust.

Long story short, due to the age range of the car I wanted, I started looking at importing cars from Japan, England, Germany and Holland.
I began looking through the various online auctions and for sale sites. Cars in England are tough. Not only are they typically very rusty but clean examples command a price premium. Germany, cars are in good shape and again expensive. Holland harder to purchase from and get an exporter without being there, which leaves Japan. Some good things about buying from Japan are that the fees are reasonable, ships are plentiful (more later) and the Japanese typically take care of their stuff. Also, the weather can be more mild than Europe.

Apprently in the early 1990s into the 2000s Japan went through a weird love of vintage stuff phase. Rover saw an oppertunity to sell vehicles here and capitalize on this new rush for vintage goods (especially cars). One thing though, because Minis didnt have Air Conditioning, and the Japanese require A/C, the local Rover branch in Japan took it upon themselves to make some additional changes and designed their own Air Conditioning system retrofit for the cars exported in from England.

Ok so, I started browsing the auctions which is where most people start. Most of the stuff that rolls through is junk in my opinion. Lots of "R" evaluation (the equivalent of salvage) cars that were in my price range. One evening while drinking I checked one of the typical vehicle resellers in Japan and found a very clean 1999 Rover Mini in blue which had just popped up at a car reseller website (not auction) with only 32,000km on the clock. I ended up committing to buy for a tad over $6,200. After shipping costs insurance and fees it was around $8,600. This was in early August. I hired a vehicle importer and sent the money over and waited... and waited. The seller said it would take about 3 months to ship but it ended up being around 2. The car was loaded up onto the Nissan USA Ship and headed towards Canada and the Port of Long beach, Arriving on October 21. I ended up renting a trailer and driving to the port to pick up the vehicle, not really knowing what I was going to find.

Here is the original pic:
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Low and behold, I am the proud owner of a 1999 Rover Mini.

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Notice all the new Z Cars in the background?
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The car is better than I expected and has really cleaned up well after a bath and a deep scrub.
I managed to get the car registered locally without much issue as well after getting some Collector Car insurance. It cost $71 in total state fees to register the car for 5 years. All said and done, I am into it for a little under $10,000 which was the original budget. I love the car, it runs great but does need some TLC. I'll keep the thread updated with any relevant updates. Thanks for reading.
It looks like a classic mini cooper. Is it the same size as the "original?" There is an original mini cooper in my town but haven't seen it in a number of years. I had the chance to see it parked next to a civic or accord and that puts the size into perspective.
 
Here is my question, back in the 80s there was a huge "gray market" run on euro cars . It was easy to get one and not very expensive to import say German cars. Tons of importers and then I thought the DOT snuffed that out so it was almost impossible to do. Does anyone know what the DOT law was and I have not heard of many people doing it. I assume if your were rich or had the money anything was possible. But really never saw many true grey market imports after the shut down. To the OPer, Was it tough and costly to do? I assume you needed to add driver door beams if the car is older, since I can only assume Europe has added them by now.
25 year import rule in the USA. It has to be 25 years to the MONTH to be compliant. Doug Demuro made a really nice write up about this. There are still some gray areas with the Left Hand Utes based in Colorado as Holden was a GM subsidiary but Holden never officially sold Australian utes in the usa.
The four ways to import a vehicle.
Apparently a manufacturer can issue a certificate of compliance to the usdot/NHTSA but some manufacturers (Lamborghini being well known from what I've read) drag their feet or just about refuse to. You can thank Ferrari and Mercedes for getting the ball rolling on the 25 year import rule. The Deutschmark was weak against the US Dollar so people started buying Mercedes from Germany and having them directly imported instead of buying from the local dealership. The issue Mercedes had was the expense to make their vehicles compliant for the United States that wasn't required in Europe. Things like catalytic converters, O2 sensors, and side impact beams in the doors were mandatory in the USA. Companies popped up overnight to "ensure" compliance was met but most did a poor job.
 
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Here is my question, back in the 80s there was a huge "gray market" run on euro cars . It was easy to get one and not very expensive to import say German cars. Tons of importers and then I thought the DOT snuffed that out so it was almost impossible to do. Does anyone know what the DOT law was and I have not heard of many people doing it. I assume if your were rich or had the money anything was possible. But really never saw many true grey market imports after the shut down. To the OPer, Was it tough and costly to do? I assume you needed to add driver door beams if the car is older, since I can only assume Europe has added them by now.
In general, the 25 year rules allow vehicles in as is however the vehicles must be in original condition, w/ no engine swaps or major modifications and the manufacturers will or at least have, provided specific information to the Feds regarding vehicles. That said, there are folks who have 'cleverly' imported or tried to import newer vehicles under the rule, some with the expected consequences; JDM Cars

For a while around 2010 when I imported mine it was not uncommon to see Land Rover Defenders w/ ABS, etc. with late 70's/early 80's VIN's advertised for sale. That has been stopped....
 
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In general, the 25 year rules allow vehicles in as is however the vehicles must be in original condition, w/ no engine swaps or major modifications and the manufacturers will or at least have, provided specific information to the Feds regarding vehicles. That said, there are folks who have 'cleverly' imported or tried to import newer vehicles under the rule, some with the expected consequences; JDM Cars

For a while around 2010 when I imported mine it was not uncommon to see Land Rover Defenders w/ ABS, etc. with late 70's/early 80's VIN's advertised for sale. That has been stopped....
Technically if you read through the NHTSA import rule documents 25 years and older they don't care what engine and transmission you have in a 1996 Citroen Saxo or Euro Spec Ferrari 360. The reason that the NHTSA is so irritated over the "JDM" craze was due to MoroRex. After the Fast and the Furious craze people wanted a Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R. MotoRex shipped in 60 "Bodies in white " claiming they were a "kit car" which don't have to meet crash testing or epa testing. The NHTSA felt like they'd been had. MotoRex was raided and shut down. However oddly enough the customers purchased the 60 GT-Rs with the faith that they were us road compliant. The NHTSA granted those 60 specific R34s exemption instead of crushing them.
 
Here is my question, back in the 80s there was a huge "gray market" run on euro cars . It was easy to get one and not very expensive to import say German cars. Tons of importers and then I thought the DOT snuffed that out so it was almost impossible to do. Does anyone know what the DOT law was and I have not heard of many people doing it. I assume if your were rich or had the money anything was possible. But really never saw many true grey market imports after the shut down. To the OPer, Was it tough and costly to do? I assume you needed to add driver door beams if the car is older, since I can only assume Europe has added them by now.
My former BIL imported a German Porsche back then. When it arrived it wasn't the model he ordered. there was really no recourse. He got taken to the cleaners. Could never register it. Don't think he researched it very well.
 
Technically if you read through the NHTSA import rule documents 25 years and older they don't care what engine and transmission you have in a 1996 Citroen Saxo or Euro Spec Ferrari 360. The reason that the NHTSA is so irritated over the "JDM" craze was due to MoroRex. After the Fast and the Furious craze people wanted a Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R. MotoRex shipped in 60 "Bodies in white " claiming they were a "kit car" which don't have to meet crash testing or epa testing. The NHTSA felt like they'd been had. MotoRex was raided and shut down. However oddly enough the customers purchased the 60 GT-Rs with the faith that they were us road compliant. The NHTSA granted those 60 specific R34s exemption instead of crushing them.
The NHTSA may not care, but the EPA does, or at least sure did in '12 when I imported my Defender. Mine came with a low mile but utterly gutless original 2.5NA diesel and I planned on swapping it for a 200tdi in short order, but the opinion I sought was clear that the vehicle had to be unmodified or modified w/ an EPA 'compliant' engine (and guidance was a bit fuzzy on that), but the 200tdi could be on a pallet in the cargo area. I wound up keeping the 2.5 for originality, so the exercise was moot.

To finish the story, I got maybe 90% through importing the LR myself then was asked to take additional responsibilities at work, becoming responsible for all global import/export compliance for a $20B/yr. company, w/ ultimate PoA for US customs filings. I very quickly stopped what I was doing and hired a Registered Importer ($$) to bring the truck in as I didn't want any hiccups with my silly hobby to put my name on some list and impact any of the ~$8b in US imports that the Company was doing......
 
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Very nice.

There’s a company that sells diesel Toyota Surfs (4Runners). I’ve wondered how difficult it’d be to get one here.
 
There are a few companies selling them already landed. Unless you want the experience of doing your own import, I would highly recommend buying one here.

Its pretty overrated, almost boring doing the process. I imagine if I had more communication with the vehicle shippers/ importers it would have been more entertaining then it was. Even the port wasn't that enjoyable as they rush you in and rush you out. I didnt have a TWIC card so I was at the mercy of the port staff to escort me around at the Port of Long Beach.

As an update here, I continue to work on the car and steadily improve some things. So far, its been dead reliable and enjoyable to drive. I have noticed it is using some oil when on the highway at speed for an extended period of time. Right now, it probably uses a quart every 500 miles which I am hoping improves as I continue to do maintenance on the car and replace worn stuff.

So far, Ive done a full service including
  • spark plugs, wires,
  • oil, all filters,
  • new lower stabilizer bar bushings,
  • new Bilistein shocks all around (waiting to install last shock as its behind the gas tank but I will get to it this weekend, fuel filter at same time).
  • I bled the brakes and bleeding the clutch will come next.
  • I exchanged the coolant as well. I am in the process of installing a digital coolant temp gauge
  • I have new fenders in box waiting to go on.
The car gets so much attention on the roads and at gas stations etc and is a real hoot to drive. Pictures forthcoming.
 
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