I can't stand LKQ... Rant

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My latest work project was replacing the engine in a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Pentastar. The reason for replacement was blown head gaskets, caused by the customer getting in a wreck and tearing the front end off the truck. He then proceeded to keep driving until it got so hot it popped. Insert theory here.... Anyway.

I've received countless used engines over the years, which as anyone in the industry knows is always a crap shoot. That being said, newer cars are built to be modular: major components like the engine and transmission are designed to be installed and removed at the factory with the least amount of labor and time possible within reason. Example: on this particular vehicle, the ENTIRE engine and trans harness terminates in 3 spots. One PCM connector. One chassis connector. One B+ connection at the fuse box. There's also a single block to chassis ground cable that's easily accessible. Bam, engine is out.

Why, then, does a yard feel the need to DESTROY a perfectly good harness? It took them longer to hack through the 35ish wires in the darn harness than it would have to flip 2 quick-connects and undo one 10mm nut. This particular engine not only had a ruined harness, but it had a destroyed intake came VVT actuator, a broken thermostat, a damaged water pump, the upper intake vacuum ports were broken off, and the oil pan had a hole in it. Needless to say, I was extremely annoyed because I had to spend at least 2 additional hours going over this pile with a fine toothed comb making sure I wasn't missing any other issues.

I'm happy to report, however, that the engine is in and I got it fired up today. It runs flawlessly, and I'll admit I had my doubts it would. The truck has 81k miles on it and I was told the engine was close to the same. The replacement engine got new plugs and a new oil cooler/filter housing while it was out along with upper and lower intake gaskets. I removed, cleaned, and installed the oil pan off the junk engine to solve the hole issue. The engine started after about 3 seconds of cranking and other than the initial timing chain clatter it runs great. I give it 3 weeks until it starts throwing cat codes or O2 codes, there was so much coolant in the exhaust it took almost 15 miles of highway driving to clear it out, and that was after running for 25 minutes in the shop puking white.
 
It irks me too. LKQ is a terrible company. They had a running VW Phaeton and told me"They can't sell me the whole car." Actually you can but they were lazy and wanted to make less money selling it for scrap vs selling a vehicle that runs.
 
What bothers me more I think is when I have to strip the core engine to reuse all of the covers, manifolds, and parts that they broke, only to have the delivery driver of all people complain that "the core isn't assembled" and they won't accept it. That's where you're wrong bucko, the long block is assembled, and the rest of the unusable crap that you destroyed is out in the dumpster. You "need" it? There it is, go fetch it yourself. It's not like the core isn't just going to get shoved into a car as weight to be crushed anyway.
 
Why, then, does a yard feel the need to DESTROY a perfectly good harness? It took them longer to hack through the 35ish wires in the darn harness than it would have to flip 2 quick-connects and undo one 10mm nut.
Not a defense of LKQ or any yard, just an outside observation....

How or why would they know how to "properly" pull an engine, transmission, etc from every vehicle they get ?
 
What bothers me more I think is when I have to strip the core engine to reuse all of the covers, manifolds, and parts that they broke, only to have the delivery driver of all people complain that "the core isn't assembled" and they won't accept it. That's where you're wrong bucko, the long block is assembled, and the rest of the unusable crap that you destroyed is out in the dumpster. You "need" it? There it is, go fetch it yourself. It's not like the core isn't just going to get shoved into a car as weight to be crushed anyway.
I've always wondered why they wanted a core for a used engine. Unless they just figure people won't return it and that is an easy extra $100-500 for them.
 
Not a defense of LKQ or any yard, just an outside observation....

How or why would they know how to "properly" pull an engine, transmission, etc from every vehicle they get ?

It's their job to know :rolleyes:

Or at least they should be able to look it up :unsure:

If it was a U-Pull-It where you pull the parts yourself, then fine, but if they insist on doing the pulling, they should know or find out how to do it properly.
 
What bothers me more I think is when I have to strip the core engine to reuse all of the covers, manifolds, and parts that they broke, only to have the delivery driver of all people complain that "the core isn't assembled" and they won't accept it. That's where you're wrong bucko, the long block is assembled, and the rest of the unusable crap that you destroyed is out in the dumpster. You "need" it? There it is, go fetch it yourself. It's not like the core isn't just going to get shoved into a car as weight to be crushed anyway.
And they tell you they're just selling you the long block-- any manifolds, carburetors, accessories are for your convenience and not guaranteed.

So why do they demand all that stuff back?
 
Charge Long Block time when installing wreaking yard engines, Standard Operating Procedure these days.

While it sucks & very unprofessional on their part, Dismantlers are paid peanuts & 99% around here are illegal immigrants.

I needed a fuel tank for a 2012 Charger......Tried 6 different wreaking yards & looked at no less than 16 fuel tanks......EVERY one was ruined because the dismantlers have no idea what they're doing. I don't pay for a part 'til I see it for this very reason. I like when they say their policy is to collect before a part is pulled......I fire back with "It's my policy to not get screwed".
 
Actually, at 10 cents a pound, it's still $20-$30 worth of scrap for them.
It may be 10 cents a pound for "X" tons of scrap, 12 cents for more, 15 cents for even more so to them, the more they accumulate the better.
 
Why, then, does a yard feel the need to DESTROY a perfectly good harness? It took them longer to hack through the 35ish wires in the darn harness than it would have to flip 2 quick-connects and undo one 10mm nut. This particular engine not only had a ruined harness, but it had a destroyed intake came VVT actuator, a broken thermostat, a damaged water pump, the upper intake vacuum ports were broken off, and the oil pan had a hole in it.
The parts pullers are minimum wage muscle. Not techs. I stopped buying most things at regular junk yards years ago. If I need an engine or transmission or major body parts, I'll just buy a wreck at the salvage auction. For the $800 -$1,000 a junk yard wants for an engine or transmission, I can buy a running and driving car for $1200 that I can test the engine transmission before pulling, then sell off the extra parts and in effect get the engine for free.
 
The parts pullers are minimum wage muscle. Not techs. I stopped buying most things at regular junk yards years ago. If I need an engine or transmission or major body parts, I'll just buy a wreck at the salvage auction. For the $800 -$1,000 a junk yard wants for an engine or transmission, I can buy a running and driving car for $1200 that I can test the engine transmission before pulling, then sell off the extra parts and in effect get the engine for free.

That's not realistic for most Repair Shops, I struggle for space to park customers vehicles as it is.
 
In the wide open spaces of Texas? Come on now. How much would a storage lot 10 miles out of town cost?

I live/work in the middle of Fort Worth.....Not in the middle of a cow pasture ;)

I don't have the time to buy & strip vehicles anyway, All I have time for is Diagnose, Repair, Repeat. Do all my wreaking yard running on Saturday if needed. About all I buy from wreaking yards is Engines & Suspension hard parts (uprights/knuckles). The only reason I need a fuel tank for a Charger is a exhaust shop "hot knifed" it with a sawzall blade.

Don't really like buying "yard" engines either, But....Don't always have a choice or it's cost prohibitive to rebuild one. Needed a 5.4L 3V for a 2006 F250.....Engine in the truck launched a connecting rod. Ford doesn't have a ETA on a rebuilt one & was even willing to buy a reman through Autozone as they would at least pay me labor for any issues that arose......2 months out.

Bought a engine out of a 130,000 mile 2008 Expedition......Heard it run & sounded good with no VCT Phaser rattle. Found the right upper timing chain guide broken apart & laying in the oil pan. Installed a Melling timing kit & Oil pump.

Sounds like you repair & flip vehicles, My business model is different.
 
In the wide open spaces of Texas? Come on now. How much would a storage lot 10 miles out of town cost?
Unfortunately us not having income tax just means property tax … so I have sold assets in the last 6 years not knowing when the rate hikes would end …
 
I live/work in the middle of Fort Worth.....Not in the middle of a cow pasture ;)

I don't have the time to buy & strip vehicles anyway, All I have time for is Diagnose, Repair, Repeat. Do all my wreaking yard running on Saturday if needed. About all I buy from wreaking yards is Engines & Suspension hard parts (uprights/knuckles). The only reason I need a fuel tank for a Charger is a exhaust shop "hot knifed" it with a sawzall blade.

Don't really like buying "yard" engines either, But....Don't always have a choice or it's cost prohibitive to rebuild one. Needed a 5.4L 3V for a 2006 F250.....Engine in the truck launched a connecting rod. Ford doesn't have a ETA on a rebuilt one & was even willing to buy a reman through Autozone as they would at least pay me labor for any issues that arose......2 months out.

Bought a engine out of a 130,000 mile 2008 Expedition......Heard it run & sounded good with no VCT Phaser rattle. Found the right upper timing chain guide broken apart & laying in the oil pan. Installed a Melling timing kit & Oil pump.

Sounds like you repair & flip vehicles, My business model is different.
Yep, and maybe one of the two most skilled guys on this site … who from a business perspective should not waste his talents on things that will not get a client back on the road quickly … with plenty miles left in that vehicle …
 
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