I am REALLY putting M-1 EP to the test

[LS1-CAMARO]

I decided to go through with it. I have an LS1 Z28, in which I had a replacement motor with 35K miles installed last summer. After instillation, I did an auto-Rx clean then rinse cycle.

In November, I had M-1 EP 5W30 and the Wal Mart Fram Filter installed. The total oil added was 6 quarts (slight overfill from 5.5 reccomended). I also added ~3 oz of Auto Rx. I am now just over 12K miles and I have burned ~1.25 quarts of oil, but the dipstick still indictes that the sump is "In Operating Range", although at the bottom of it. I am running right out to 15K, which should be 7 and a half months total (~2,000 miles/month) I am adding no make up oil, as the dipstick does not require it. I want a true analysis of how well the original oil protects, with as little variability as possible. If I fall below "Operating Range" within the next 3-6 weeks, I will pull the plug. Frank from Auto Rx has offered to pay for 1/2 of the Blackstone Lab's analysis and I will post it as soon as I have it. Oh, also, I replaced the air filter with the "new" motor wit a total of ~23000miles so far. After the analysis, I will go to a 3,000 mile "Rinse phase" just incase the Auto Rx did some cleaning during this test. Then, possibly PP, or M-1 oe something which will allow me long drain intervals.

 

[technica]

Quesiton. Won't the Auto Rx treament change the analysis being done on the oil?

 

[427Z06]

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Originally posted by LS1-CAMARO:
I also added ~3 oz of Auto Rx.

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Yep. Many are going to claim this test was "fixed" even with that small addition. Too bad, I bet many would of liked to have seen this extended M1 EP test.

 

[G-MAN]

How is this putting M1 to the test when you've thrown the AutoRX into the formula as a variable?

It's like the guy who posted over on the UOA forum that the Pennzoil Platinum 5w40 didn't perform as well as he expected. And then you read his post and he only used two quarts of the 5w40 mixed with three quarts of 10w30. Hello?

 

[LS1-CAMARO]

"I am really putting M1 EP and 3 oz od A-RX to the test" Does that make you happy?

Back off guys, I am obvoislly not trying to deceive anyone or I would have not mentioned the autoRX. Sheesh, I come to offer information to everyone and I get hazed for it. Sorry to ruffle your feathers, but the info will be what it is. I also talked to Blackstone Labs and they said that Auto Rx would not show up in the analysis. Will it affect the data? I have no idea, but take it

 

[Bambam]

Lighten up Francis......Will it affect the data? No one knows so how then can we get an accurate ascertation of the oil if something's been added???

 

[427Z06]

LS1-CAMARO, I don't believe anyone is picking on you. But you yourself set yourself up with the Subject: "I am REALLY putting M-1 EP to the test."

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

LS1-Camaro,

Put that M1-EP to the test, go 20K!! With Auto-Rx keeping things clean, it will be an interesting UOA, especially far beyond 15K. I wouldn't hesitate to add the make-up oil as anyone would add oil to the crankcase if it were low, I suggest you do the same.

If it were my car: change the filter, top it off, run it to 20K.

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by 427Z06:
LS1-CAMARO, I don't believe anyone is picking on you. But you yourself set yourself up with the Subject: "I am REALLY putting M-1 EP to the test."

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Sorta like a post entitled "I've quit smoking!"

And then the post reads: "I'm down to 1 pack a day."

 

[TomJones76]

This board has a forum entitled:
"Product Rebates, Sales and Promotions" under the "Items for Sale" header.
I'd suggest checking there periodically so you don't miss a good sale.

 

[LS1-CAMARO]

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Originally posted by 427Z06:
LS1-CAMARO, I don't believe anyone is picking on you. But you yourself set yourself up with the Subject: "I am REALLY putting M-1 EP to the test."

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So, let me get this straight...you don't think that running 15K miles on an oil in
florida heat with no make up oil and no new filter is really putting it to the test, reguardless of whether or not there is 3 oz added to the 6 qt sump or not? Man, what, in your opinion is really putting an oil to the test?

 

[sxg6]

you are testing the oil without question. but i think that the uoa results will be skewed because of the auto-rx

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by LS1-CAMARO:
Man, what, in your opinion is really putting an oil to the test?

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Running the oil WITHOUT any additives whatsoever. Otherwise, you're not testing the oil you're testing the oil plus whatever additives you're using.

 

[Alcibiades]

LS1-Camaro, Look at it this way. Whether 3 oz. of ARx skews the UOA results or not, the more important question is whether those results show that the oil+ARx did its job well. (Isn't that the purpose of the test, anyway?) If it does, then who cares whether or not the test was theoretically and chemically "pure" or not? You will have found something that works well in your car, and you can smile while the nit-pickers keep on picking.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

alcibiades, I agree 100%

 

[G-MAN]

Why don't we debate what the meaning of "is" is and whether or not our last president knows the meaning of "sex" too?

The point is you are not testing Mobil 1 EP if you're going to doctor it up with ARX. It's that simple. You can dance around the issue all you want but it doesn't change anything.

 

[TomJones76]

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Originally posted by TomJones76:
This board has a forum entitled:
"Product Rebates, Sales and Promotions" under the "Items for Sale" header.
I'd suggest checking there periodically so you don't miss a good sale.

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Whoa. Wound up in the wrong thread. Completely my bad.