Hyundai (kia) Warranty users for 2011-up theta 2

LineArrayNut said:
You do realize, nick, that they still won't acknowledge any wrong doing after settling out of court after a class action lawsuit and a nhtsb finding. This has been going on for a decade. They all blow up. It's just a matter of when. The Korean fbi even raided their offices over this.
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Ford has transmissions blowing left and right with their Fiesta and Focus and they gave the middle finger to every customer. Nissan too.

Hyundai gave their customers lifetime engine warranties.

I had a ‘15 Sonata that was under the recall. I traded it in 12/2019 and 6/2020 I get a letter that it had a lifetime engine warranty. I kicked myself in the butt for getting rid of that car.
 
LineArrayNut said:
You do realize, nick, that they still won't acknowledge any wrong doing after settling out of court after a class action lawsuit and a nhtsb finding. This has been going on for a decade. They all blow up. It's just a matter of when. The Korean fbi even raided their offices over this.
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The big difference is they fix them. There are others who won't even acknowledge issues-or does the math and figure it's cheaper to pay a wrongful death lawsuit than to acknowledge issues......................you know who I am talking about.
 
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Nick1994 said:
Ford has transmissions blowing left and right with their Fiesta and Focus and they gave the middle finger to every customer. Nissan too.

Hyundai gave their customers lifetime engine warranties.

I had a ‘15 Sonata that was under the recall. I traded it in 12/2019 and 6/2020 I get a letter that it had a lifetime engine warranty. I kicked myself in the butt for getting rid of that car.
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Ford is probably the worst offender in the Industry when it comes to things like this.
 
People were dying from fires and wrecks with the theta 2, not as many as pintos or suv rollovers. Sure, I'm glad things are moving in the right direction, but at every step there is ambiguity and not quite right administration of the settlement agreement. I was supposed to get a turbo sonata from the dealership. But instead I got a f150 lariat from enterprise for a hamburger a day. Plus a night out with the gang from work bar tab.
 
LineArrayNut said:
People were dying from fires and wrecks with the theta 2, not as many as pintos or suv rollovers. Sure, I'm glad things are moving in the right direction, but at every step there is ambiguity and not quite right administration of the settlement agreement. I was supposed to get a turbo sonata from the dealership. But instead I got a f150 lariat from enterprise for a hamburger a day. Plus a night out with the gang from work bar tab.
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Link please!
 
Nick1994 said:
Ford has transmissions blowing left and right with their Fiesta and Focus and they gave the middle finger to every customer. Nissan too.

Hyundai gave their customers lifetime engine warranties.

I had a ‘15 Sonata that was under the recall. I traded it in 12/2019 and 6/2020 I get a letter that it had a lifetime engine warranty. I kicked myself in the butt for getting rid of that car.
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Nick, a couple flaws with your logic. The Ford and Nissan transmission issues differ from Hyundai’s engine issues. Hyundais engines are literally catching on fire due to the rod bearing failures. That is a major public safety risk. The Ford and Nissan transmission issues are very low safety risk to the the public.

Also, Hyundai didn’t give their customers lifetime warranty’s just because. The settlement in court was either offer the lifetime warranty, or replace all the engines as a mandatory recall. That’s how settlements work.
 
CKN said:
The big difference is they fix them. There are others who won't even acknowledge issues-or does the math and figure it's cheaper to pay a wrongful death lawsuit than to acknowledge issues......................you know who I am talking about.
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You do realize that Hyundai was court ordered to fix them, right?
 
I just was at dealer for a clutch/slave job on the 2.4L forte, decided to ask them to "check" engine while it was there. I "thought" I was hearing a ticking around 1950 rpms in 3rd, it appears it was a flex pipe or something leaking/rattling slightly that sounded like a tick.

Results: This 2.4L is "one of the healthier ones" and this is all the dealer said about it. I did ask how deep did they go.. and he told me the tech was actually driving around with the main computer in the car to look at live data information. How they did a bearing clearance test - could not tell you, but maybe you can tell me?

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Really though court ordered or not.... how many other manufacturers are even contemplating looking at 10-year-old vehicles for warranty?
 
Bearing clearance test was also done on our 17 Tuscon with 2.0L Nu engine.

I was talking to the service manager he says it takes a few hours because they pull the spark plugs, and plug in a handheld computer scope into each plug well, and the scope measures the bearing for wear. Our's passed and we were sent on our way.

They are also flashing a new ECU programming which will cause limp home mode if it detects bearing wear, and i believe a flashing CEL.
 
Listen to the knock sensor is what they did a few years ago when they gave me the orange dipstick and said cheerily, " you passed "!
 
dishdude said:
How do they do this bearing clearance test?
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Sounds like they put a bump gauge down each cylinder with the piston in the middle and then rotate the crank back a forth a couple degrees. I imagine if you can rotate the crank at all with no movement on a piston, its too much clearance in the rod bearings.
 
1 SX said:
I just was at dealer for a clutch/slave job on the 2.4L forte, decided to ask them to "check" engine while it was there. I "thought" I was hearing a ticking around 1950 rpms in 3rd, it appears it was a flex pipe or something leaking/rattling slightly that sounded like a tick.

Results: This 2.4L is "one of the healthier ones" and this is all the dealer said about it. I did ask how deep did they go.. and he told me the tech was actually driving around with the main computer in the car to look at live data information. How they did a bearing clearance test - could not tell you, but maybe you can tell me?

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Really though court ordered or not.... how many other manufacturers are even contemplating looking at 10-year-old vehicles for warranty?
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17% engine failure in warranty period. Any other manufacturer looking at that failure rate?
 
@LineArrayNut
I hope you find better success with the next brand you buy. I can understand your frustration having gone through this experience.
 
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