HumbleMechanic speaks to VW's direction and enthusiast community

Tried to get all the way through the video but it’s a pretty random lament. This from someone who time trialed and rallied a Scirocco for a couple years.

Owned six VAG vehicles, none since 2005. Recently rented an Atlas and it was very average for that crowded class. Their NA sales seem to be hanging in at around 350,000 units per year. Their reliability ratings remain very low.

Loved these ads though.

 
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@Ranger83 Why not? Please enlighten us? I tried all of them before buying Atlas and before buying Sequoia.
I am very critical of what VW did with Atlas, but they nailed down practicality.
 
More VW stories. One cool thing about my ‘79 Scirocco on the track. Without a roll cage, body flexing was pretty extreme. The front was stiffened with upper and lower strut bars, but the rest of the car could more or less do its own thing.

There is one fairly long turn at NHIS where the inside rear wheel would lift off the ground as the body torqued. Then if you did some left-foot braking, that wheel would stop. This was a popular photo op.
 
More VW stories. One cool thing about my ‘79 Scirocco on the track. Without a roll cage, body flexing was pretty extreme. The front was stiffened with upper and lower strut bars, but the rest of the car could more or less do its own thing.

There is one fairly long turn at NHIS where the inside rear wheel would lift off the ground as the body torqued. Then if you did some left-foot braking, that wheel would stop. This was a popular photo op.
Ah yes, the dog pee move. Had a MKIII GTI that would do that all the time. But it was more from the body stiffness rather than body torque. Still great fun 😁.
 
More VW stories. One cool thing about my ‘79 Scirocco on the track. Without a roll cage, body flexing was pretty extreme. The front was stiffened with upper and lower strut bars, but the rest of the car could more or less do its own thing.

There is one fairly long turn at NHIS where the inside rear wheel would lift off the ground as the body torqued. Then if you did some left-foot braking, that wheel would stop. This was a popular photo op.
It is actually the stiffness, not flexiness that allowed the inside rear wheel to lift.
 
Sadly, you are not wrong sir.

I've looked at GTIs, and aside from knowing that we sort of get the "filtered" version, and creeping prices, it's all too easy to think, why shouldn't I buy a used BMW or Mercedes instead, preferrring RWD, and knowing that they were originally built with cost constraints not as low.

IMO buyers in the VW segment are very price sensitive so VW doesn't give the US market the good stuff. Ex, Dual PFI/DI

There are many companies that have discovered that relying on price sensitive customers doesn't end well. Joann is the latest victim, but they, like others in their market rely heavily on discounts and coupons to attract shoppers into their stores are playing a risky game. JCPenney was in the same boat, and found that the minute those incentives ended, so did what little loyalty their customers had.

That's not to say that the additional costs in the business case can be ignored, but it's still a questionable approach to offer compromised (at least to those in the know) product to meet a cost, versus putting the best product out there, to attract quality customers, even at higher costs, or fewer sales.

To answer the rumors of a US pullout, VW did recommit, build the TN plant, and develop more tailored product for the US market. That product, the Americanized Passat, was meant to give customers what VW thought American customers wanted -- more room, mainly -- but made compromises elsewhere. IIRC, that also carried forward with the Jetta sedan (a body style more popular in the US and China).

I think part of the problem is that VW doesn't know what it wants to be, here at least. At home, it sits at the premium end of the mainstream market, so there are higher prices, but at least they come with regular updates and the latest technology.

Here, the roots also began in history as the peoples' car, but never grew to have an identity beyond that, other than as the German, or German-engineered alternative to the Japanese marques, who are arguably much stronger in the appliance-like respects.

To most, those "German" traits aren't as important (at least without a matching badge), so it doesn't capture the mass market customer, but on the other hand it gives those who do value those traits the short shrift by keeping the models imported here a step or two behind what the rest of the world gets.

You can only trade on nostagia up to a point, and even with the latest, the ID Buzz we get here is underwhelming and too expensive.

In the end, you reap what you sow.
 
I think brand loayalty will be tested as cars become more like iphones, the long term viability of current cars is questionable - IMO. Whether it's from battery costs, parts availability, or places that will service them to the same level as ICE vehicles, I think they are less desirable.
correct! Even to replace a taillight can cost a fortune. I am only looking at older cars for the moment since i am not interested pay 50k€+ for a new car. The plug in hybrid or a full EV is a no no for me. Especially when living in rust belt
 
I have never owned a VW, but I enjoyed the video, and these words of his pretty much confirmed everything I thought I knew "These were German cars, and they were weird, and they were quirky, and they were problematic - but if you knew you knew".

So they are crappy cars with a few good ones, and they have an enthusiast following for certain ones. Reminds of of Nissan. And I like(d) Nissan.

There are certain models I would probably own, but for the most part there not in my evoked set.
 
I think the investment in EV was part of diesel gate settlement.

Local dealer has like 5 ID Buzz(s?) Shame they dont have a VR6...
 
DieselGate killed the VW group. The massive fines and loss of customers killed VW.

The "tree hugger" market has moved on too. But the beautiful short-wheel-based electric VAN will drag people back.
 
Humble Mechanic mentions how everyone has a Volkswagen story. Here are two of mine.

1) My mother had a 1962 Bug. In the mid '60s (I was 12-ish) when my father was away on a business trip my mother used to let me pull her Bug in and out of the garage. Very quickly I learned that if I put water on the concrete garage floor I could pop the clutch spin the rear tires when I backed out. Whenever my father was gone I used to do this over and over again, over and over again.
2) I took my first solo drive in my mother's '62. My "solo drive" was in reality a joy ride. This was 1967 and I was only 14 years old. My mother was in the hospital for a week. My Dad visited her every evening when he got home from work. Mom's car keys were sitting on the counter and I had been eyeing them all week. One night Dad went to visit Mom but I decided not to go. I called a close friend to join me on my "solo". It was a dark, rainy night. This was literally the first time I had ever driven a car on the street. But instead of a slow, stealthy drive I was speeding through the wet neighborhood streets. It was great fun and I was a natural with car control and was tossing the swing axle machine at opposite lock, sliding sideways on the wet corners. Great fun until I finally spun out, sliding up someone's driveway and onto on their front yard, ending up about 15 feet in front of their front door! Thankfully I didn't hit anything. At that point my friend and I called it a night and motored back home.

Scott
Good thing for you "Ring"camera doorbells didn't exist back then!
 
The only VW we ever owned was an air-cooled Vanagon.
Slow, but very durable and full of character and with as much interior space as some NYC apartments have these days. Pretty easy on gas for a van of that era as well.
Loved the beast and wished we'd kept it.
This is an example of what made VW special for many buyers.
As Car+Driver wrote at the time "A Porsche among vans".
 
Like everyone else they just want to sell mediocre SUVs now. Hard pass.
All the automakers have had to shift gears, especially in North America , because that’s what families want. Thus everyone ends up making a copy of Tahoe or Grand Cherokee.
 
I think the Mk4 days was the peak for VW in the US. I had three of them. I skipped the MK5 because it was ugly and owned a MK6 for six years. Dieselgate scared me of the brand and I sold it. I eventually came back and bought a MK7 wagon and sold it for a big profit during covid. As of right now, nothing VW has to offer intrigues me.

I remember all the VW meet ups back in the early 2000’s and as every new generation came out, less people hung out.
 
After being the "VW guy" owning many VWs Mk1, several MkII, several B2s and a B5.5 1.8t. Working in a repair shop for many years, I've sold all my VWs and have cleared out most of my stash of parts on ebay over the last decade.

I lost intrest when everything was made out of plastic and reliability kept dwindling.

I loved the cars which were fun to drive, could be kept on the road with minimal costs and I could shift my own gears.

VW began missing the mark when they turned into a Mercedes reliability wise (very poor and very expensive) all while continuously being cheapened with parts which are not serviceable.

@edyvw I agree, however the Dieselgate was a bit of a conundrum. VW made the smallest diesel cars in the US and therefore fell under the most stringent NOx standards. They ultimately decided to keep power and economy with a "European tune" and inserted a cheat code to reduce NOx, power, AND fuel economy when the dyno emissions test was being conducted.

I blame the EPA for the ridiculously low NOx standards for the small car market, other manufacturers were only offering diesels in large vehicles which are less stringent on NOx.
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