Hub Centric Wheel Rings

Use them on Tiguan on winter wheels for 10 years. Never had an issue. Found really nice 16" wheels for cheap, brand new, but needed rings. And, that is about it.
 
I prefer hubrings or oem wheels that are hubcentric without rings... but I have used winter sets that have wheels which dont work with hub rings.

in that case i carefully tighten in the air and they will center.. just need to be careful. I also torqued in 3 steps instead of 2.

Definitely prefer hub centering rings/oem style even the annoying ones that pop out or get stuck on hubs.
 
Interesting discussion.. I've had issues with severe vibration since I put the Konig rims on the Festiva. Had them balanced several times to no avail. The plastic rings didn't last long I've just been pieceing them together. Maybe I'll try taking them out just to see what happens. Thought about some sort of metal ones. But I'm almost to the point of going back to steel wheels. Don't even want to drive it now days.
 
I got my plastic hub rings from US Wheel Adapters but they also make aluminum ones. My wheels are lug centric but I prefer to fill the space. I have Hyundai rims for 3 season on my Accord that have a larger center bore than the factory Honda. I also had to get different lugs for the correct taper/seat.

My old Sequoia was hub centric with the flat washers so that needed adapters if you changed anything like that. My wheels and winter were factory versions. Balancing at shops was an issue sometimes if it didn't sit correct. There were many threads on TundraSolutions back then.

@wander2039 - just had my daughters '08 CRV road force balanced a couple days ago at dealer. The normal speed balancing was good, I saw it done at 2 shops but still had vibration. Dealer did road force an found one that was higher, he rebalanced accordingly, said it was better and then asked permission to move it to the rear anyway just to help. He had checked with normal speed balance first and they were good. Road force showed the issue, so you might need to go that route. Check for a Hunter Road force balancer near you. My Honda dealer only charged $49.95 for all 4. Daughter said car was much better, nice and smooth all the way to 80mph. She's road tripping with it currently.
 
You can get metal ones, but you need to either make sure they’re anodized or put a tiny amount of antiseize on them. The biggest problem with plastic ones is guys who track, they just melt.

Good wheels will typically come with metal ones.
For $20 I'll get the metal ones. Matching wheels to hubs isn't always possible especially in aftermarket. And, like you posted twice, they ensure the wheel is centered on the hub. Guys working at tire shops are aggressive with impact wrenches, so the wheels are not on straight half of the time causing an out of balance condition.
 
I have plastic and metal. The plastic don't last. Then again I've had wheels that didn't use them though the hub was bigger than the OE.
 
My Prius is rolling on oversized-hub Subaru wheels with snows. Balanced fine.

Wife's car is on universal steelies. Same.

Son's Camry is on Mazda 6 rims. Same.

I would consider centering my hubs if I needed to. So far, I haven't.
 
I had vibration even with rings.

The cost savings are not worth the hassle if you have problems with your lug centric wheels.

Swapping to a better quality set is a good idea if you have issues though.
 
When did auto manufacturers make the move to hub-centric wheels? Or have OEM wheels for the most part always been hub-centric?
 
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It depends. Some cars in the 60s and even early 70s lacked hubcentric wheels, say aircooled VWs and Porsche 356 on rear at least.


I'd prefer getting a wheel that matches the OEM hub size, negating the need for plastic rings that'll wear out over time (and need replacement to eliminate vibration).

Agreed. I admit I prefer hubcentric OE wheels without rings. In the past I owned several aftermarket wheels (many of them were BBS sold as Volkswagen 'Driver Gear') that don't require hub rings and currently I do run OE wheels only (made by ATS, BBS, Cromodora, Borbet, Fuchs, Ronal). I never owned wheels with rings since I didn't like this kind of bandaid.
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This comment about center bore clearances and wheel-to-hub-indexing is interesting:

...Nominal clearances between the wheel hub bore and the vehicle hub are often at least +0.1 mm (+0.005”) in order for the wheel to slide onto the vehicle hub. When the wheel is installed, gravity imperceptibly pulls it downward to induce a radial runout change of at least +0.010”. The wheel is now off-center enough to add or subtract from the runout of the assembly and the residual static unbalance in the wheel depending on the angle of the remaining radial force vector. This claim is backed by numerous NVH tire service engineers, and Ford and Jaguar have TSBs that address on-car corrections of residual tire/wheel RFV by taking advantage of the wheel hub-bore-to-vehicle-hub clearance..........Virtually every vehicle that is measured for eccentricity, road force or static unbalance can benefit from using a hub-bore-to-vehicle-hub clearance indexing to assist in canceling the remaining RFV or static force in the assembly during installation...

https://www.brakeandfrontend.com/on-car-wheel-balancing-wheel-to-hub-indexing/

The author of the article:
............Dave Scribner is a nationally recognized expert in RFV Wheel Balancing, High-Performance Tire Service and 4-Wheel Alignment processes. He is a product development manager with several patents to his name and has held roles at Hunter Engineering, Bosch, Snap-On, CEMB USA and more.........

This is the author's recommended procedure for reducing vibration by wheel-to-hub indexing:

1. With the wheel properly centered on the balancer, measure RFV and balance the tire assembly.
2. Before removing the assembly from the balancer, rotate the high point/stiff spot to 12 o’clock (TDC) using the prompts on the balancer screen.
3. With a tire crayon, mark the high point/stiff spot of the assembly on the inside rim edge and inner sidewall.
4. Place the assembly on the vehicle hub with the index mark at TDC.
5. Install and torque the lug nuts/lug bolts per factory specification.
 
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