HTT PLETHORE-Canada's new supercar

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Sweden has Koenisgegg,Holland has Spyker,and now Canada has HTT.

HTT is producing a true supercar for the great white north.
It features a new unique passenger layout with the driver located amidships.As for propulsion,it has a supercharged Pratt and Miller V8 similar to those run in LeMans competition.
With 750 hp on tap ,the Plethore hits 100km/hour in under three seconds with a top speed of 390 km/hour(244 miles/hour).


http://www.httsupercar.com/
 
It looks like a stretched-out Lotus Exige (not really a fan of that) but i LIKE this car!
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Lotus meets McLaren F1.
 
Originally Posted By: 45ACP
It looks like a stretched-out Lotus Exige (not really a fan of that) but i LIKE this car!
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Lotus meets McLaren F1.


with a simdge of 458, and some of the newer lambos thrown in for flavor.
 
$800,000? Seriously? Even if that is in Canadian dollars... seriously?

Underhood picture:
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That's not the underhood of an $800,000 car. I see a GM LS engine that could have been lifted from a wrecked Corvette, a mish-mash of fittings and hoses from the local auto parts store, sensors that aren't plugged in, and unfinished composite body edging with bonding agent oozing out.

This is a kit car at best.

Remember in the last season of Top Gear, they took a bunch of heat for making stereotypical comments about the first Mexican supercar? Yeah, cars like this are the reason why those comments get made. I can imagine the glowing statements they'd have for Canada.
 
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
$800,000? Seriously? Even if that is in Canadian dollars... seriously?

Underhood picture:
2010_htt_plethore_lc750_9.jpg


That's not the underhood of an $800,000 car. I see a GM LS engine that could have been lifted from a wrecked Corvette, a mish-mash of fittings and hoses from the local auto parts store, sensors that aren't plugged in, and unfinished composite body edging with bonding agent oozing out.

This is a kit car at best.

Remember in the last season of Top Gear, they took a bunch of heat for making stereotypical comments about the first Mexican supercar? Yeah, cars like this are the reason why those comments get made. I can imagine the glowing statements they'd have for Canada.


I am sure that Clarkson will come out with some outrageous comments about this car being a poor copy of the Lotus/McLaren/Keating/anything British/supercars.
I would not expect anything else from him.This is why we love him so much.
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Honestly, I like the looks. It is the lovechild of a McLaren F1, Lotus Exige S 240, Lamborghini Murcielago, and Ferrari 458.

The cockpit is very nice, but the engine bay need a serious makeover. They should have gone with dual intakes, pulling air from side vents or something. Though it is nice not to see an engine covered in plastic, they could have put more thought into its layout, and maybe used CF panels and a CF 4point brace to give visual appeal and structural boost.

I could see this realistically as a $150k-$225k car, but nowhere near 4-5x that amount.
 
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
$800,000? Seriously? Even if that is in Canadian dollars... seriously?

Underhood picture:
2010_htt_plethore_lc750_9.jpg



I don't see it either. That looks like something put together in someone's backyard. Actually, I've seen backyard projects that looked better than that.
 
$800,000 CANADIAN dollars.
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By the way.. this thing is probably faster than it. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/noble-m12-gto-3r-specialty-file

Noble M12 GTO-3R
We're getting close to ludicrous speed.

EDIT: The show "Top Gear" can be very very rigged. Rover = Good, BMW = monstrosity type thing. Did you SEE the Cadillac race with the Ferrari. Man.. if the Ferrari was launched ANy later off the line.. man.. that show.. No.

But you are right, they think British cars are the best in the world as well and Corvettes, while faster than almost anything including Lamborghini, ...is garbage.
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Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
$800,000? Seriously? Even if that is in Canadian dollars... seriously?

Underhood picture:
2010_htt_plethore_lc750_9.jpg



I don't see it either. That looks like something put together in someone's backyard. Actually, I've seen backyard projects that looked better than that.


I find backyard projects fascinating.Send us a picture next time so that we can all marvel at the resourcefulness of the builder.
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Originally Posted By: 45ACP
$800,000 CANADIAN dollars.
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The Canadian and US dollars are roughly equal these days.

As of right now, XE.com says $800k CAD is $801,804.02 USD.
 
Originally Posted By: spock1
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
$800,000? Seriously? Even if that is in Canadian dollars... seriously?

Underhood picture:
2010_htt_plethore_lc750_9.jpg



I don't see it either. That looks like something put together in someone's backyard. Actually, I've seen backyard projects that looked better than that.


I find backyard projects fascinating.Send us a picture next time so that we can all marvel at the resourcefulness of the builder.
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How about an Explorer 5.0 swapped into a 2003 Ranger complete with functioning Explorer trip computer and auto climate control? At least all of the sensors are hooked up.
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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/727284/2003-ford-ranger-super-cab/page-1
 
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
$800,000? Seriously? Even if that is in Canadian dollars... seriously?

Underhood picture:
2010_htt_plethore_lc750_9.jpg


That's not the underhood of an $800,000 car. I see a GM LS engine that could have been lifted from a wrecked Corvette, a mish-mash of fittings and hoses from the local auto parts store, sensors that aren't plugged in, and unfinished composite body edging with bonding agent oozing out.

This is a kit car at best.

Remember in the last season of Top Gear, they took a bunch of heat for making stereotypical comments about the first Mexican supercar? Yeah, cars like this are the reason why those comments get made. I can imagine the glowing statements they'd have for Canada.


Yep, and maybe they will sell a couple and they will break. I love the half [censored] K&N hot air intake.

Oh and this is what an $800k dollar engine bay looks like:

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Its good to have dreams, but their is a reason on a handful of companies kick around long enough to spit out good super cars.
 
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Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Agreed, or this...
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I'm not saying the Plethore thing is total junk, I just don't see $800,000 in it, even in Canadian money.

The cars will be sold to carefully screened buyers...probably rules us out.
There must be a few rich Canucks out there that can whip out a check for $800,000 without thinking twice about it.
Meanwhile back at the ranch....
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You boys forgot this one:

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///M power baby!

And what's this thing about "Canadian Dollars", the dollar is on par boys. This 800K is 800K, no matter the currency. And yeah, not digging that engine bay at ALL.
 
Full Test: 2007 Noble M400 Full Test: 2007 Noble M400 "ITS LIKE A GT3"

Full Test: 2007 Noble M400

Mass times velocity

By Josh Jacquot, Senior Road Test Editor | Published May 8, 2007

2 Ratings
Mass times velocitySecond Opinion

With 425 horsepower motivating only 2,484 pounds and enough mechanical grip to embarrass most supercars, the 2007 Noble M400 has laid waste to the record books at Inside Line like the Terminator tearing through a cop-filled doughnut shop.

Our testing equipment has definitely had a hard lesson in Newtonian physics. The Noble hit 60 mph in just 3.2 seconds, then streaked through the quarter-mile in 11.4 seconds at almost 120 mph. This makes it the quickest car we've ever tested, leaving behind the Corvette Z06, Ford GT and Porsche 911 Turbo.

The M400 also slices through the slalom at 79.4 mph, nearly 4 mph faster than the previous record-holder, the poised Porsche 911 GT3. The Noble also rips up the skid pad at 1.05g, breaking another standard previously set by the 911 GT3.

The 2007 Noble M400 is a midengine racer with a twin-turbo V6 engine and it looks as raw as its record-busting performance numbers. Yet we've found out that this British-designed kit car can make it on the street as a daily driver. And that's what makes its performance even more stunning.

What Makes It Fast
Lee Noble has been designing cars for the racetrack in his little English shop in Barwell, Leicestershire, since 1999, and the M400 started out as a purebred device that amateurs could drive at track days, a real racecar for the street. The midengine M400 is the fourth iteration of Noble's original design, and it has now evolved into a surprisingly useful street car as well.

In the United States, the M400 is classified as a kit car because its chassis, engine and transmission are sold separately. The rolling chassis is actually built in South Africa, and 1g Racing in Hamilton, Ohio, sells it for $72,500. The basic 3.0-liter Ford Duratec V6 is assembled by AER Manufacturing in Carrollton, Texas, and lists for $4,400. Snakebite Performance, 1g Racing's parts division in Ross, Ohio, sells the transaxle and all the ancillary turbocharging hardware for $17,700.

A professional installer can put the Noble M400 on the road in about 30 hours at a cost between $3,500 and $4,000. Add it all up and you're looking at close to $100,000 for a kit car.

Fortunately you get all the right stuff. A tubular steel space frame offers structural rigidity while a lightweight, double-wishbone suspension at every corner optimizes handling, and a fiberglass body has been shaped for pure performance.

Motivation comes from a seemingly harmless 3.0-liter Ford Duratec V6 that has been transformed by two Garrett GT25R turbochargers calibrated by Roush Racing. The turbos deliver 12.5 psi of boost with minimal lag, enough to make 425 hp and an equally impressive 390 lb-ft of torque. Since the Duratec V6 is a fixture in the British-built Ford Mondeo, it's no surprise that the Mondeo's six-speed Getrag gearbox is also in play. Snakebite Performance adds the Quaife gear-type limited-slip differential.

A $100,000 Kit Car?
It's worth it. The Porsche 911 GT3 is the Noble M400's closest competition in terms of performance, and a stripped-down GT3 will cost you $106,795.
 
Drool @ McLaren, and at the Noble... The Noble has got to be one of, if not the coolest car I have ever seen let alone had the chance to pilot... Hamilton, OH is here in the greater Cincinnati area, and a few years ago I was at work when I saw one pull up into the parking lot. Talking with the guy I find out his brother works for them here, and his is not a regular M400... I ask what he means, and he lifted the rear cover and what I saw was a bored+stroked Duratec with two turbos that were about 50% bigger than stock. I also noticed the HRE Monoblok wheels, not exactly standard, 19" in diameter with the rears coming in at 13" wide wrapped in 335width Pirelli P Zero Corsa tires... And a wicked AP Racing brake setup with 8 piston front calipers hugging 15.7" 2pc discs up front and 6 piston calipers with 14.9" 2pc discs in the rear. (Wheels/brakes are easier for me to remember than complicated turbo nomenclature... Plus I remember his rears being nearly the same size as my fronts!)
Apparently it is possible to have whatever you want done to the car, and the cost can be very low due to it simply requiring installing the new part instead of the usual one during the "manufacture", and even engine work is easy as it sits outside the car on engine stand while being worked on.
If I remember correctly, he had his bored/stroked out to 4.0L, compression ratio of 9:1, bigger valves, hotter cams, two big intercoolers, ram-air-style dual intakes with what had to be 4-4.5" plumbing, and of course the two huge turbos attached to silver-ceramic monstrous downpipes and up-pipes. It was pushing something like 35psi at full boost, I think? It was something insane like that.
This was while my car was undergoing its own Frankenstein-esque transformation and was about 80% finished compared to today. He asked to see under the hood (which I had yet to have painted) and he saw the big Lysholm unit connected to the intercooler, and asked if I wanted to trade keys for 20min or so. I about peed myself, and said sure. I was terrified of someone else driving my car, but I could not pass up this opportunity.
That thing was the most Jekyll and Hyde car I have ever driven... The clutch was no stiffer than the Stg2 in my car, and on the main roads it was incredibly tame as I kept it under 3krpm to warm it up and familiarize myself with a decidedly not-kit-car interior. We got to the back roads, pulled up against one another, and he rolled down the window on my car and said "punch it...!". So I did. As soon as that tach hit 3100rpm I saw the boost gauge leap and everything became blurry and shifting into 2nd I was back at 3500rpm and felt my insides get left behind a half mile back.
In a flash I was shifting into 4th at redline and looked down to see the speedometer needle struggling to keep up, about a half second behind, but finally indicating over 115mph... I slammed on the brakes and actually had bruises on both shoulders from the 4pt harness. In the turns, the car handled better than a Lotus Exige S, it simply went where you pointed with no drama even at 3x the speed limit, though oversteer was easily accessible but incredibly controllable. Without any doubt it remains THE most balanced, neutral handling car I have ever driven.
He wouldn't tell me how much power it was making as apparently it was not fully-tuned, but I have kept in touch with him via Facebook of all things, and I know that now in its fully-tuned state it is making 620rwhp with the same turbos but with even more boost, better AFR, and timing advanced far enough that he has to fill the tank with 8gal of 93oct and 5 of 110oct... Oh, and it now wears a 16.5" rotor + 12piston caliper BBK up front, with the former front BBK in the rear.
He came to a smallish (30ppl) Auto-X once, but did not fare well as it was too eager to rev past that magical 3100rpm and boost like crazy (think Porsche 930 Turbo...). He did say he was gonna get a second tune for lower boost to use at such events, but he hasn't been back.

I do love those cars.

And I hear there is a newer, lighter, more powerful model coming out that will be a Super(kit)Car... I cannot wait to even see pictures of it.
 
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