How Germany Almost Reached America

A four engine bomber flying into US airspace is a deathwish .

The Luftwaffe was founded as a strategic air arm that loved the idea of four engined massive bombers. But as reality set in, they simply did not have the industrial capacity to manufacture enough engines, and their greatest existential enemies (France and Poland) were a stone's throw away. So why bother? So, as the original Luftwaffe architect and commander died prematurely (in a plane crash) it was realized that making 10 twin engined bombers was probably better that 2 or 3 four engined ones. I think Ernst Udet was the German flying ace (from WWI) that took over and he had been bedazzled by the US Navy's use of dive bombing as a precision air attack weapon (against ships but equally effective against land targets) in an age of ugly dumb bombs that would impact miles from their intended targets, when he was German military attache in the United States in the 20's. So he pushed for strike aircraft like the Stuka and its predecessors as excellent dive bombers.

General Udet eventually became one of the key Luftwaffe commanders in charge of planning and strove for dive bombers and four engined strategic level bombers as well. But he had to serve under a fat drug addicted lying **** named Hermann Goering that lied so much one could almost peg him as a British agent or something. In any case Udet realized soon prior to the invasion of the Soviet Union that German production was so woeful that the outcome was at best a strategic deadlock, if not outright defeat, and he began to drink heavily and eventually committed suicide under the strain as Goering lied to his stupid Nazi overlords like Hitler with boasts and completely unrealistic projections (see Dunkirk) while exerting all kinds of pressure on Ernst and used him as a scapegoat. The Luftwaffe had many outstanding twin-engined bombers like the He-111 and the Dornier, but it was not practical to make a true long range four engine bomber in any serious numbers though several interesting Luftwaffe prototypes were made. Germany was essentially an agrarian economy with some sexy names in the industrial sector after WWI, so it just wasn't possible.

In the end, bombing NYC with a few bombers would have done little but anger the American people to an even more vindictive end of the Third Reich. However, one can argue that a large and sustained fleet of four engined Luftwaffe strategic bombers might have had a more significant impact on the war against the Soviet Union as they could have bombed the Siberian and western Russian transplanted factories such as Tankograd that were beyond reach as they churned out tens of thousands of great weapons like the T-34 tank. We'll never know...
 
The Luftwaffe was founded as a strategic air arm that loved the idea of four engined massive bombers. But as reality set in, they simply did not have the industrial capacity to manufacture enough engines, and their greatest existential enemies (France and Poland) were a stone's throw away. So why bother? So, as the original Luftwaffe architect and commander died prematurely (in a plane crash) it was realized that making 10 twin engined bombers was probably better that 2 or 3 four engined ones. I think Ernst Udet was the German flying ace (from WWI) that took over and he had been bedazzled by the US Navy's use of dive bombing as a precision air attack weapon (against ships but equally effective against land targets) in an age of ugly dumb bombs that would impact miles from their intended targets, when he was German military attache in the United States in the 20's. So he pushed for strike aircraft like the Stuka and its predecessors as excellent dive bombers.

General Udet eventually became one of the key Luftwaffe commanders in charge of planning and strove for dive bombers and four engined strategic level bombers as well. But he had to serve under a fat drug addicted lying **** named Hermann Goering that lied so much one could almost peg him as a British agent or something. In any case Udet realized soon prior to the invasion of the Soviet Union that German production was so woeful that the outcome was at best a strategic deadlock, if not outright defeat, and he began to drink heavily and eventually committed suicide under the strain as Goering lied to his stupid Nazi overlords like Hitler with boasts and completely unrealistic projections (see Dunkirk) while exerting all kinds of pressure on Ernst and used him as a scapegoat. The Luftwaffe had many outstanding twin-engined bombers like the He-111 and the Dornier, but it was not practical to make a true long range four engine bomber in any serious numbers though several interesting Luftwaffe prototypes were made. Germany was essentially an agrarian economy with some sexy names in the industrial sector after WWI, so it just wasn't possible.

In the end, bombing NYC with a few bombers would have done little but anger the American people to an even more vindictive end of the Third Reich. However, one can argue that a large and sustained fleet of four engined Luftwaffe strategic bombers might have had a more significant impact on the war against the Soviet Union as they could have bombed the Siberian and western Russian transplanted factories such as Tankograd that were beyond reach as they churned out tens of thousands of great weapons like the T-34 tank. We'll never know...
Good summary! One excellent book you may enjoy is The Luftwaffe: A History by John Killen. It's hard to put down.
 
We are lucky the WW2 German engineers never stopped dreaming and experimenting because we use it today...


Axial Flow Compressor
jumbo%20004.jpg


Stealth
hitlers-stealth-flying-wing-bomber.jpg


Jet powered Interceptors
RLM-Messerschmitt-Me-262-lg.jpg


ICBM
Takom%2BV-2%2B%25281%2529.jpg


Cruise Missiles
840d00ef78d346a82aae78f0dc5f65d8--cruise-missile-aviation-art.jpg


Smart Bomb
Fritz X radio-guided bomb
1200px-Fritz_X_side.jpg


Wire guided missile
ruhrstahl_x_4_german_ww2_aa_missle-3d-model-21375-865444.jpg


Rocket powered
me-163-2.jpg


Swept wings
focke_wulf_ta_183_huckebein_ww2_german_jet_by_spirit_knight-d8x74fx.jpg


Forward Swept wings Junkers Ju 287
Ju_287_10.jpg


Delta Wings Lippisch DM-1
GermanTriangleCraft.jpg


Variable swept wing Messerschmitt P 1101
mep1101.jpg
 
I didn't read the entire article, but the part I read said that US and German scientists made similar progress on wings during WW2. I can imagine that both sides may have "borrowed" some progress from the other side, as espionage was rampant during this timeframe. So rampant that our ultra-secret Manhattan Project was well known to Japan and Germany. It is also a fact the physics is the same on either side of the Atlantic, so it wouldn't be by chance that a wing developed by either side for the same purpose would look similar.

 
Last edited:
Germany was doomed from the beginning (of the War). A screwed up economic model, together with a brutal dictatorship was a recipe for failure.
Yes, at that time they were the lighthouse of the world in science and in math, but you cannot catch up after a few drunkards took the helm for good and declared themselves untouchable.

It’s a matter of economics. Follow the money:)
 
Back
Top