How come ac lifespan is so short on cars?

I'm not sure, but I think an electric compressor ought to be easier to seal.

Home refrigerant compressors in home ACs and fridges are hermetically sealed, whatever that means. So they don't leak.

Yeah electric units are easier to seal. Hermetically sealed means the compressor housing is welded shut, rendering all internal parts non serviceable but virtually eliminating leaks. I've seen leaks from a bad weld, major rust, or overheating that damaged the seals on the electrical terminals, but those are outliers. Here's a little one from a commercial under counter fridge, chopped open to show the internals. Bonus: can you spot why it stopped working?

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Semi-hermetic units have internal parts including the electric motor in a housing bolted together with gaskets. Noisier, maybe less efficient at small sizes, but can be torn down for servicing instead of replacing outright for any internal failure. Common on older equipment and large capacity new equipment. Can even do fun stuff like variable capacity by shutting down banks of cylinders so one big compressor can act like two or three smaller ones. Here's a 6 cylinder 35 HP unit from a "small" brewery chiller. Can see the removable cylinder heads, reconfigurable intake port on the front, and variable capacity solenoid up top.

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Use the AC every week if you can. This might not always be possible if it gets very cold in the winter (the compressor will only work above 32F/0C), but use it at least once a week when possible.

Running the AC regularly does a lot to preserve the system :)

I get a car and turn it on and NEVER turn it off again. The only A/C I've ever had to replace was after 260k on my 2005 CR-V when the compressor grenaded.
227k Civic, 165k Mazda MX-6, 284k CR-V, 154k and counting 4Runner. All cold and only the one replaced.
 
I've only had one Schrader valve fail in my 05 yukon and that happened less than a year ago when it had around 330k but other than that everything else in the ac is original and only had two top offs before that. Compressor, clutch, blower motor, resister, all blend door actuators surprisingly, hvac control module, evap and condenser are still original and no other seals or gaskets have failed just one Schrader.

The 03 sierra is the same except the hvac module quit a few months ago so I put a parts store one which has horrendously bright lighting but surprisingly quick potentiometer registration and had only 1 prior top off in its life.

Still blows ice cold even at high fan speed and I've contemplated about dumping some refrigerant out of both so they cool a bit less so the high pressure sensor activates less and cycles the old clutches less as it could blow warmer and I wouldn't mind at all. It'd still blow ice cold but at a lower more comfortable fan speed which I'd prefer but I run them at a higher speed so it cycles less just to get more out of the clutch. Blower and resister are easy to replace if they fail but neither has.
 
So here is a list of reasons I think car a/c units are less reliable than home ac:

1. vibration
2. road debris damage
3. car a/c has clutch that can wear or fail - home a/c is switched electrically
4. exposed compressor shaft is harder to seal and will wear
5. must accommodate engine movement under load (need rubber lines, not copper)
6. more mechanical joints = more points of failure
7. environment is more harsh than in home (higher temps, more corrosive)?
8. remotely operated blend doors add failure points
 
It's like 8 years on the dot I get a freon leak. Usually the evaporator on the dodge. I added a can of freon last year and that got me through the season. This year I added a small can like 12oz I think and it stayed cold for a month. The truck sat for a week, then the ac wasn't cold after that. I didn't actually fill the system up all the way. Just enough to make it nice and cold out of the vents. I don't really trust those gauges on those cans and dont want to overfill.
1995 Tacoma 25 years ownership a/c blowed cold throughout. 1993 Camry 10 years ownership a/c blowed cold throughout. 2003 Honda element had 2 compressions, 1 blower resistor and 1 condenser in 13 years. I'll add the Honda needed 2 window actuators, 1 door lock actuator 2 starters and an alternator. Make of this what you will.
 
It's like 8 years on the dot I get a freon leak. Usually the evaporator on the dodge. I added a can of freon last year and that got me through the season. This year I added a small can like 12oz I think and it stayed cold for a month. The truck sat for a week, then the ac wasn't cold after that. I didn't actually fill the system up all the way. Just enough to make it nice and cold out of the vents. I don't really trust those gauges on those cans and dont want to overfill.
Longevity is not business-friendly.
 
Knock on wood my '12 Chevy truck has the original freon charge and still blowing cold a/c after 13 years. My 2000 Mustang's a/c quit after 23 years. It's hit and miss but I've had the best luck with GM for a/c of anything. I honestly don't think anything is the same quality nowadays as it was pre pandemic for some reason. There are a lot of cheap foreign parts on pretty much every new car now.
When we lived in Houston, we learned quickly who made the coldest AC, and it wasn't the foreign brands. Chrysler Aire Temp was incredible.
 
Use the AC every week if you can. This might not always be possible if it gets very cold in the winter (the compressor will only work above 32F/0C), but use it at least once a week when possible.

Running the AC regularly does a lot to preserve the system :)

I haven't had any problems with lifespan, but many newer AC systems are weaker than the old ones due to smaller compressors, shutting off with auto stop/start, hybrids, etc.

Get a can of freon that has UV leak dye in it, run it for awhile, then get out the black light when it's dark, and you might be able to find your leak :unsure:
yeah. Keeps the seals pliable
 
It's like 8 years on the dot I get a freon leak. Usually the evaporator on the dodge. I added a can of freon last year and that got me through the season. This year I added a small can like 12oz I think and it stayed cold for a month. The truck sat for a week, then the ac wasn't cold after that. I didn't actually fill the system up all the way. Just enough to make it nice and cold out of the vents. I don't really trust those gauges on those cans and dont want to overfill.
Pay someone who knows what they are doing and has proper tools. You have no idea if it’s under or over filled and if you are causing expensive damage.
 
Pretty sure they did that. I'm not going to spend $2200 or whatever it was I paid to have it fixed again. The truck is like 19 years old. The main question was why the systems don't last long
For some reason (cheap design? cheap materials?) Do not know about Mopars but Ford and Chevy A/C systems have been notoriously bad back when I was buying them.
Ford A/C systems seemed to last longer than the GMC vehicles we owned.
Since we started buying Honda only in the mid 1990s we have not needed any A/C work done at all. Not even on the 2002 Honda Accord the wife kept for over 18 years. Seems the foreign automakers simply make or design them better or use better quality parts?
 
Manufacturers have gotten so advanced with CAD engineering, to the point where they really can make a part so it fails exactly when they want it to fail. This is why we see so many “this just failed when my warranty plan just expired last month”.
 
My GX sat for a quite a while on the auction circuit before I got it. Battery lasted all of 2 months and A/C started blowing warm a few months later.

Thankfully with a top off and regular usage, it seems to be holding up pretty well, we’ll see how it does going forward.
 
I think 'PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE' is alive and well.
I don't really think pulling the dash is as big a deal as shops make it out to be. Honestly most of them just pull it up and back a tad. It doesn't actually get removed from the truck, but they're happy to charge $2500 for that evaporator core replacement
 
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