Horizontally mounted ADV filter and bypass filter without ADV

Okay title just about sums it up. I'm swapping a diesel engine into my old Toyota pickup and will be running a remote derale oil filter conversion. I bought my filters before realizing how hard it would be to package the setup as the bypass filter is MASSIVE. The best location is horizontal on a frame rail, but I'm worried about drain back from the bypass filter. I have a Baldwin B7379 which has an anti drain back valve, and a BF7587 which doesn't. Can you guys enlighten me about how risky it'd be to mount this setup horizontally? My only other option is to hack a hole where my windshield washer reservoir sat just behind the driver side headlights. Obviously I'd need to fab up a box to protect the filters from road debris in either location, but I'd prefer not to cut up the truck any more.
Thanks!

 

[burbguy82]

Beyond the stresses on the filter housing, I do not see any issue with mounting it that way. I would find a spot further down the frame to mount them personally as I am sure there is a spot. Wrap the oil hoses with loom, and tape them every so often for protection, thats all I got.

 

[wrecz]

Beyond the stresses on the filter housing, I do not see any issue with mounting it that way. I would find a spot further down the frame to mount them personally as I am sure there is a spot. Wrap the oil hoses with loom, and tape them every so often for protection, thats all I got.

Thanks for the input. There's a perfect spot on the frame rail just behind the cab. I have some braided stainless lines going to the dual filter setup so should be pretty beefy. I suppose I could thread them through some heat shield but that seems overkill as long as they're not chafing.

 

[burbguy82]

Thanks for the input. There's a perfect spot on the frame rail just behind the cab. I have some braided stainless lines going to the dual filter setup so should be pretty beefy. I suppose I could thread them through some heat shield but that seems overkill as long as they're not chafing.

You cannot protect the lines enough. It touching a heat shield, I would cover with silicone hose of the appropriate ID.

Of course you will want to go the least reasonable distance away for mounting, for oil pressure purposes. Good luck, a pic with the finisih product would be nice. I have thought about doing this same thing to my suburban, but did not.

 

[wrecz]

You cannot protect the lines enough. It touching a heat shield, I would cover with silicone hose of the appropriate ID.

Of course you will want to go the least reasonable distance away for mounting, for oil pressure purposes. Good luck, a pic with the finisih product would be nice. I have thought about doing this same thing to my suburban, but did not.

Thanks! The silicone hose is a great idea. I hadn't thought of that. I'll definitely post some pictures.
Should be wrapping it up this weekend. The main reason for the conversion is the stock Mercedes oil filter housing would have been smooshed into the firewall, but a side benefit is the Cummins turbo I'm using requires 2 micron filtration and the old turbo was happy with 10. These engines are extremely dirty, so I'm interested to see how the oil looks after 3000 miles, especially with the EGR deleted. I'm also using a mechanical thermostat to bypass the oil cooler when cold so I'll post up my impressions of that compared to stock as well.

 

[ZeeOSix]

An ADBV on a bypass filter really won't matter (probably why Baldwin didn't add one) because it's a secondary small parallel flow volume of oil, not the main oil volume going to the engine like the main filter in the system.

 

[RalphPWood]

Beyond the stresses on the filter housing, I do not see any issue with mounting it that way. I would find a spot further down the frame to mount them personally as I am sure there is a spot. Wrap the oil hoses with loom, and tape them every so often for protection, thats all I got.

Did a fleet of mostly Ford powerstrokes. I bolted Gulf Coast filters to the frame horizontal. I believe the International trucks took the Gulf Coast filters in a vertical position. Its been awhile. The 6.0s had just came out. The pleated paper filters dont have enough depth to clean oil.

 

[ZeeOSix]

The pleated paper filters dont have enough depth to clean oil.

What's that mean? Oil isn't cleaned based on the depth of the filter pleats, but rather based on the media's designed filtering efficiency and total media area, regardless of how deep the pleats are.

 

[RalphPWood]

What's that mean? Oil isn't cleaned based on the depth of the filter pleats, but rather based on the media's designed filtering efficiency and total media area, regardless of how deep the pleats are.

 

[RalphPWood]

I remember the origional Amsoil bypass canister filter. Amsoil had Bobby Unser saying this oil change is forever. They havent made a filter that cleans oil since. I was using a Frantz oil cleaner and Amsoil 10 40 at the time.Early 80s

 

[RalphPWood]

I remember the origional Amsoil bypass canister filter. Amsoil had Bobby Unser saying this oil change is forever. They havent made a filter that cleans oil since. I was using a Frantz oil cleaner and Amsoil 10 40 at the time.Early 80s

I remember the origional Amsoil bypass canister filter. Amsoil had Bobby Unser saying this oil change is forever. They havent made a filter that cleans oil since. I was using a Frantz oil cleaner and Amsoil 10 40 at the time.Early 80s

I remember the origional Amsoil bypass canister filter. Amsoil had Bobby Unser saying this oil change is forever. They havent made a filter that cleans oil since. I was using a Frantz oil cleaner and Amsoil 10 40 at the time.Early 80s

Sorry It sounded like Amsoil rhetoric.

 

[carl2591]

just to drop in here a min... I installed a used FS-2500 bypass filter on my 2003 7.3L ford PS after buying in 2015.. I was mounted on the frame rail on driver side on it sided. two line ran back to oil filter housing that had two plug you remove for the lines.. There was no drain back valve and the can was quite heavy on the bottom.. it had a large long bolt runing through the head unit to the bottom.. on the head unit was a recesssed square groove you put the oring in, slide the filter medis in the can and bolted it all together.. it rode that frame for teh next 9 years sellling the unit in nov 2024 with over 100K miles on it..

In retro spect I should have taken it off to use on my NTM 2017 6.7L cummins but was not sure how to make it work and really did not put the time into thinking about it.. I regret that now.. I could have used it no problem..