Honda walk behind Lawnmowers

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Two questions:

1. Are the Honda lawnmowers sold at Home Depot inferior in any way compared to if you were to buy one at an authorized dealer? I emailed Honda with this question, no response.

2. This is for owners of Honda walk behinds, is the double blade system, is as good as advertised?
 
there is no difference. there are, however, two different engines from Honda - the commercial duty with the steel sleeve (which is a REALLY good engine) and the normal "homeowner class" that is good - but does not live up to the reputation built by the original
 
i own a John Deere, I ride, briggs and straton 2 cyld, real oil filter, 52 inch cut,twin blade,,eats Hondas on most days,,lol, PS Honda makes good stuff,,but I ride Harleys too,,so there.
 
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
there is no difference. there are, however, two different engines from Honda - the commercial duty with the steel sleeve (which is a REALLY good engine) and the normal "homeowner class" that is good - but does not live up to the reputation built by the original

I didnt think there was a difference between factory direct Honda mowers and the ones sold at H.Depot by comparing online. I was aware of the Commerical 190cc, and the Residential 160cc. But you lost me when you mentioned the "steel sleeve". What is that?
 
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
i own a John Deere, I ride, briggs and straton 2 cyld, real oil filter, 52 inch cut,twin blade,,eats Hondas on most days,,lol, PS Honda makes good stuff,,but I ride Harleys too,,so there.

I believe the John Deere riders with the Kawasaki engines are considered the higher end J.D's. The J.D's. with the Briggs are cheaper models that are sold at big box stores such as Lowes...
 
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Originally Posted By: tomcat27
there is no difference. there are, however, two different engines from Honda - the commercial duty with the steel sleeve (which is a REALLY good engine) and the normal "homeowner class" that is good - but does not live up to the reputation built by the original

I didnt think there was a difference between factory direct Honda mowers and the ones sold at H.Depot by comparing online. I was aware of the Commerical 190cc, and the Residential 160cc. But you lost me when you mentioned the "steel sleeve". What is that?


The Honda engines are made of aluminum but the commercial models have steel sleeves as liners. Tuff as a boot. Great engines.

Also, buy from an authorized dealer will get you better service if you need it. Trust me, buy it at Home Depot then take it to a dealer for service or especially warranty work, you will wait awhile.
 
Originally Posted By: Superbuick96
I believe the John Deere riders with the Kawasaki engines are considered the higher end J.D's. The J.D's. with the Briggs are cheaper models that are sold at big box stores such as Lowes...


That's true. JD has used Kawi engines and (Japanese) Tufftorq transaxles for 20yrs now. The Briggs equipped price-point JD lawn tractors can be had a JD dealers or home centers. They are the identical machines regardless of who's selling them.

Joel
 
JD has made a big move to Briggs in the last few years. My dealer told me it was because Briggs owed JD a ton of cash and almost went under. The JD engine switch allowed them to stay afloat and in turn got JD their cash back. He mentioned that JD may own part of Briggs then or currently......Does anyone know if this is true????


On the Honda pushmowers, they are great pieces of equiptment. The Honda generators and small engine stuff is a constant around my place and work sites.
 
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Originally Posted By: Superbuick96
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
there is no difference. there are, however, two different engines from Honda - the commercial duty with the steel sleeve (which is a REALLY good engine) and the normal "homeowner class" that is good - but does not live up to the reputation built by the original

I didnt think there was a difference between factory direct Honda mowers and the ones sold at H.Depot by comparing online. I was aware of the Commerical 190cc, and the Residential 160cc. But you lost me when you mentioned the "steel sleeve". What is that?


The Honda engines are made of aluminum but the commercial models have steel sleeves as liners. Tuff as a boot. Great engines.

Also, buy from an authorized dealer will get you better service if you need it. Trust me, buy it at Home Depot then take it to a dealer for service or especially warranty work, you will wait awhile.

The way to go is probably the 190cc commerical engine with the Nexite deck. Id be willing to be this setup would last a lifetime. But what im interested in is how well the Honda dual blade system works, or doesnt work. Is it hype, or does this setup work as well as advertised?
 
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
there is no difference. there are, however, two different engines from Honda - the commercial duty with the steel sleeve (which is a REALLY good engine) and the normal "homeowner class" that is good - but does not live up to the reputation built by the original


Yes , there is a difference. Home depot beats the manufacturers up on price. Honda , dewalt , etc, makes runs of their products exclusively for depot. They are somewhat sub-standard. I remember talking to a manufacturer rep who stated that certain engine blocks that did not meet standards wound up on the depot line. Same with dewalt xrp batteries sold at depot. They just do not last as long.
 
From what friends tell me the Honda double blade system works quite well. I would have no problem owning one. The perfect mower set up would be the Toro aluminum decked mulching mower with the commercial Honda engine in it. And I believe that set-up can be had in the Toro commercial walk behind mower.
 
I like the 22" Craftsman (Husqvarna) walk behind we got from Sears with the 675 Series Briggs flathead. If your in it for longevity and durability, you really can't be a briggs flathead.
 
nope got it a JD Dealer in Crossville tn ,,,he had all kinds of units with different engines,,u got me on the engine thing though,,it runs great and that was 7 years ago and still cuts 4 acres twice a month,,go figure,,
 
I own a Honda HRR mower. Yes, the twin-blade system does work very well. With the mower set up for bagging, it will cut the clipping about as fine as it does when mulching. If you're lazy (like me) and can't keep up with the lawn growth in the spring, it also chews through long and damp grass pretty well.
 
If you want to buy a Honda that will work like the one the neighbor has that's been cutting his yard for 26 years, just make sure you don't buy the bottom of the line. That 160 engine is just as good as any Briggs (I love Briggs by the way) of the same size, but unfortunately, that's not saying much for the Honda. When you pay top dollar for a Honda, you want the nicer engine and rear wheel drive train along with the indestructable deck. Otherwise you might as well buy the flavor of the week on sale at Walmart. I wouln't even make fun of that because the flavor of the week, with the right care and maintenance, could last for many years.
 
Originally Posted By: yeehaw1960
If you want to buy a Honda that will work like the one the neighbor has that's been cutting his yard for 26 years, just make sure you don't buy the bottom of the line. That 160 engine is just as good as any Briggs (I love Briggs by the way) of the same size, but unfortunately, that's not saying much for the Honda. When you pay top dollar for a Honda, you want the nicer engine and rear wheel drive train along with the indestructable deck. Otherwise you might as well buy the flavor of the week on sale at Walmart. I wouln't even make fun of that because the flavor of the week, with the right care and maintenance, could last for many years.


Yeah Im a believer in the "You get what you pay for" idea too. But like you mentioned even an entry level lawn mower will last you 20+ years if taken care of properly. [censored] Ive heard from several people that all they do gas up they're mowers. Both guys had the original sparkplug, and factory fill oil, and the mower runs good. Both are Craftsman Briggs powered, both over 10 years old....
 
Originally Posted By: Superbuick96
Originally Posted By: yeehaw1960
If you want to buy a Honda that will work like the one the neighbor has that's been cutting his yard for 26 years, just make sure you don't buy the bottom of the line. That 160 engine is just as good as any Briggs (I love Briggs by the way) of the same size, but unfortunately, that's not saying much for the Honda. When you pay top dollar for a Honda, you want the nicer engine and rear wheel drive train along with the indestructable deck. Otherwise you might as well buy the flavor of the week on sale at Walmart. I wouln't even make fun of that because the flavor of the week, with the right care and maintenance, could last for many years.


Yeah Im a believer in the "You get what you pay for" idea too. But like you mentioned even an entry level lawn mower will last you 20+ years if taken care of properly. [censored] Ive heard from several people that all they do gas up they're mowers. Both guys had the original sparkplug, and factory fill oil, and the mower runs good. Both are Craftsman Briggs powered, both over 10 years old....


Briggs are cheap, and doggedly reliable. They aren't as fuel efficient as the Honda OHC are probably, but they start incredibly easily, and will last forever.
 
I've got a Craftsman mower out at my camp that's been relegated to cutting brush and grass for over twenty years. The mower itself is close to 30 years old. It has a 3.5 h.p. Tecumseh engine on it and sees an oil change ever three or four years, never had a spark plug change and gets the blade straightened more often than sharpened. It's been a glutton for abuse and refuses to die. If Bruce Willis owned a lawn mower, he'd want one of these.....
 
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