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Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
Originally Posted By: philipp10
DCT’s as efficient as CVT”s? Not true. CVT’s (and Hybirds) are more efficient because they keep the engine at the optimum torque for any given load and RPM 100% of the time. A manual or automatic transmission with discrete gearing can only hit that sweet spot at one point in each gear. Keeping the motor loaded just right is key to peak fuel efficiency. I am not saying that CVT’s are the perfect answer since we really do not know the longevity just yet but they definitely win out in simplicity and costs over the hybrid systems on the market now.
CVT's are meant for the best MPG's possible, NOT meant for performance driving like a Dual Clutch is.
Name one High performance Car out there that has a CVT? Name One. mmmmmm Good Luck with that.
CVT = better MPG, NOT a better driving experience. Bottom line. If your not a "Performance" guy, or woman, then you wont care anyway haha.
Jeff
Honestly Jeff...you don't seem to realize that it's not only your opinion that people find a bit silly.....it's the WAY you put it.
Let's see if I can get you to grasp why you are obnoxious.
You made basically two rude and ignorant statements.
1. "CVT's are garbage"
2. "Stupid to even have a CVT"
Both of those statements are false.....but more to the point...very much a put-off and rude.
You could have said something like..."I don't care for CVT's. They don't function well in terms of performance. Some quality issues have also come up in some models...and that is a concern".
But...you are who you are...which seems to be somebody that likes to enflame the discussion for no apparent reason other than ego.
I see your point, but far from being rude. It is what it is.
I say they are Garbage from my perspective only. That is not being rude, that is based on my opinion of the transmission and YES I have owned a car with a CVT adn will never ever again.
What is Stupid on a CVT is to have paddle shifters. There are no shifts so that is Stupid to simulate them to make them feel like something they are not?
I had 2 CVT Transmission fail within 45K miles on a Honda I had. So I dont think much of them. Though someone commented on my VW in a way that would seem that Hondas are more reliable well not to me. My VW has never left me stranded. A Honda Has. Several Times.
So forgive my bitterness if I am not on the "Honda or CVT Bandwagon".
Jeff
Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
Originally Posted By: philipp10
DCT’s as efficient as CVT”s? Not true. CVT’s (and Hybirds) are more efficient because they keep the engine at the optimum torque for any given load and RPM 100% of the time. A manual or automatic transmission with discrete gearing can only hit that sweet spot at one point in each gear. Keeping the motor loaded just right is key to peak fuel efficiency. I am not saying that CVT’s are the perfect answer since we really do not know the longevity just yet but they definitely win out in simplicity and costs over the hybrid systems on the market now.
CVT's are meant for the best MPG's possible, NOT meant for performance driving like a Dual Clutch is.
Name one High performance Car out there that has a CVT? Name One. mmmmmm Good Luck with that.
CVT = better MPG, NOT a better driving experience. Bottom line. If your not a "Performance" guy, or woman, then you wont care anyway haha.
Jeff
Honestly Jeff...you don't seem to realize that it's not only your opinion that people find a bit silly.....it's the WAY you put it.
Let's see if I can get you to grasp why you are obnoxious.
You made basically two rude and ignorant statements.
1. "CVT's are garbage"
2. "Stupid to even have a CVT"
Both of those statements are false.....but more to the point...very much a put-off and rude.
You could have said something like..."I don't care for CVT's. They don't function well in terms of performance. Some quality issues have also come up in some models...and that is a concern".
But...you are who you are...which seems to be somebody that likes to enflame the discussion for no apparent reason other than ego.
I see your point, but far from being rude. It is what it is.
I say they are Garbage from my perspective only. That is not being rude, that is based on my opinion of the transmission and YES I have owned a car with a CVT adn will never ever again.
What is Stupid on a CVT is to have paddle shifters. There are no shifts so that is Stupid to simulate them to make them feel like something they are not?
I had 2 CVT Transmission fail within 45K miles on a Honda I had. So I dont think much of them. Though someone commented on my VW in a way that would seem that Hondas are more reliable well not to me. My VW has never left me stranded. A Honda Has. Several Times.
So forgive my bitterness if I am not on the "Honda or CVT Bandwagon".
Jeff
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