HONDA ACCORD FILTER CUT OPEN

[53' Stude]

Filter from a friends 2019 Honda Accord that had 3,997 miles on dealer oil and this filter. Put tough guard he supplied and Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 in and on.

 

[izualangel]

Looks so much like the Honeywell made Subaru OEM filter.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Looks so much like the Honeywell made Subaru OEM filter.

Do those Subaru OEM filters say "Honeywell" on them? Thought Fram and Honeywell parted ways many years ago.

 

[aquariuscsm]

I'm trying to decide if I want to pony up $12 to buy either one of these filters or an M1 110A. Both the same price.

 

[izualangel]

Do those Subaru OEM filters say "Honeywell" on them? Thought Fram and Honeywell parted ways many years ago.

The one that's on my car right now says "MADE IN USA" but doesn't say anything about Honeywell.

 

[izualangel]

I'm trying to decide if I want to pony up $12 to buy either one of these filters or an M1 110A. Both the same price.

I just changed my oil, so I have to wait to try it, but there's a Tokyo Roki filter made for Mazda that fits the EJ series engines. There's a good YouTube video where the guy cuts open a dozen or so filters for a Legacy GT and compares them.

Mazda (N3R1-14-302)​

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

I'm trying to decide if I want to pony up $12 to buy either one of these filters or an M1 110A. Both the same price.

I would buy the M1.
That filter looks just like a FRAM oil filter.
Thanks for the C&P '53.

 

[ZeeOSix]

The one that's on my car right now says "MADE IN USA" but doesn't say anything about Honeywell.

Yeah, Fram and Honeywell have absolutely no ties today.

 

[izualangel]

Yeah, Fram and Honeywell have absolutely no ties today.

Fine. It's a bit academic at this point, Honeywell made them when I bought that car, and I never really stopped referring to them as Honeywell filters. If I call it a BCOD would that make you feel better?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Fine. It's a bit academic at this point, Honeywell made them when I bought that car, and I never really stopped referring to them as Honeywell filters. If I call it a BCOD would that make you feel better?

And what year was that?

Honeywell was out of the Fram filter business in 2011 - Rank Group owns Fram. It's a falsehood to say Honeywell makes any Fram filters today ... they haven't for over 11 years.

https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/honeywell-sells-consumer-auto-products-business/

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/honeywell-sells-cpg-prestone-fram-autolite.147459/

 

[izualangel]

And what year was that?

Honeywell was out of the Fram filter business in 2011 - Rank Group owns Fram. It's a falsehood to say Honeywell makes any Fram filters today ... they haven't for over 11 years.

https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/honeywell-sells-consumer-auto-products-business/

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/honeywell-sells-cpg-prestone-fram-autolite.147459/

I've had my Subie longer than most people keep spouses.

The point that I was trying to make in the first post was overshadowed by this segue. I was making an observation. I do not know who makes the Honda OEM filter in the first post. I simply stated that it bears a striking resemblance to the Subaru OEM filters I've used for more than a decade. The 5U on the baseplate. The blue color. The font used for the date code. The fiber endcaps. That was it.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I've had my Subie longer than most people keep spouses.

The point that I was trying to make in the first post was overshadowed by this segue. I was making an observation. I do not know who makes the Honda OEM filter in the first post. I simply stated that it bears a striking resemblance to the Subaru OEM filters I've used for more than a decade. The 5U on the baseplate. The blue color. The font used for the date code. The fiber endcaps. That was it.

Yeah, the OEM Subaru filter is made by Fram, not "Honeywell" like you claimed in your post. When you're wrong, you're wrong no matter how long you want to back pedal, lol.

 

[PimTac]

And what year was that?

Honeywell was out of the Fram filter business in 2011 - Rank Group owns Fram. It's a falsehood to say Honeywell makes any Fram filters today ... they haven't for over 11 years.

https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/honeywell-sells-consumer-auto-products-business/

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/honeywell-sells-cpg-prestone-fram-autolite.147459/

And it has changed since then.

 

[ZeeOSix]

And it has changed since then.

Point is, Fram has zero association with Honeywell since 2011, regardless of what's happened since Honeywell sold the filter making business.

True or false: Does Honeywell make Fram, Subaru or Honda branded filters today?

If not, when was the last time one of those filters said "Honeywell" anywhere on the can?

 

[aquariuscsm]

The difference between the Fram and the Honda oem is the can and gasket. The insides are mirror image exact. The Honda oem has a good sturdy can, while the Fram has their signature paper thin can (that's the only thing about Fram filters I don't like). I've also never liked that cheap looking center tube. Looks like some kind've sloppy sheet metal with sloppy looking holes, while other offerings have a rock solid looking metal center tube with more precision looking holes. I've always wondered why their Ultra doesn't have a sturdier can.

 

[izualangel]

Point is, Fram has zero association with Honeywell since 2011, regardless of what's happened since Honeywell sold the filter making business.

True or false: Does Honeywell make Fram, Subaru or Honda branded filters today?

If not, when was the last time one of those filters said "Honeywell" anywhere on the can?

Last post. I'm done with this. I made a simple comment, and you picked the least relevant point to argue. My original post is still valid, no matter how you look at it. I never noticed any material change in the OEM filters during the time that ownership changed. So, the Honda above does still resemble the filters I bought when they said Honeywell. Had I said "Looks so much like the Honeywell made Subaru OEM filter that I bought in 2010?" would you have jumped down my throat?

 

[Zee09]

The difference between the Fram and the Honda oem is the can and gasket. The insides are mirror image exact. The Honda oem has a good sturdy can, while the Fram has their signature paper thin can (that's the only thing about Fram filters I don't like). I've also never liked that cheap looking center tube. Looks like some kind've sloppy sheet metal with sloppy looking holes, while other offerings have a rock solid looking metal center tube with more precision looking holes. I've always wondered why their Ultra doesn't have a sturdier can.

Picky sucker ain't we...

 

[aquariuscsm]

Picky sucker ain't we...

Haha yes indeed!

 

[DuckRyder]

Jay has told us the media is special and it has a seam clamp the TG and EG do not.

 

[Blagoje]

Last post. I'm done with this. I made a simple comment, and you picked the least relevant point to argue. My original post is still valid, no matter how you look at it. I never noticed any material change in the OEM filters during the time that ownership changed. So, the Honda above does still resemble the filters I bought when they said Honeywell. Had I said "Looks so much like the Honeywell made Subaru OEM filter that I bought in 2010?" would you have jumped down my throat?

You don't have to respond to this by any means but I think the thing that perhaps many of us have grown tired of are references to Fram filters that include Honeywell and other things like "cardboard" endcaps as well as any other series of things that people continuously say about Fram products that are neither relevant nor accurate and either have never been true or at the very least have not been true for a very long time.

I don't think anyone's trying to take shots at you but it's just that these kinds of things get repeated often enough that some, to include myself, may prefer to nip it in the bud before it goes any further.