Highway Trooper got me doing 88 in a 65 early this morning

[Jack Watts]

I'm not even sure why there's an LEO involved.

Put up a camera, mail a fine. Base the fine on the difference between the speed limit, the speed recorded, and the speeder's income level.

Simple and inexpensive to employ.

Just wanted to comment on this here. A few years ago when I was in China, I noticed the cab driver accelerating on an empty highway up to 100kph on an empty highway, and then slamming on the brakes...repeatedly... didn't think much of it. After the 3rd or 4th cab ride, it hit me..."red light cameras"...

fast forward a couple of years, and pretty much everyone in China drives like this, constantly... There's some app that beeps on their phone, with the most annoying jingle you've every heard...brakes go on...

I agree police have better things to do, but this is the reality of the camera system...

 

[A_User55555]

Waze is great, assuming people actually report in. My radar detector has saved me where waze has failed, they’re all great tools but must be used properly and with a bit of common sense. But don’t get me started on the arbitrary speed limits in some places. There is a section of 80/94 in Indiana that is 55mph. Literally nobody is doing 55mph through that area.

My first ever ticket I was clocked doing 86 in a 55... officer wrote it as 75 in a 55. I had just put mildly louder mufflers on my Durango and wanted to hear them, so I got on the highway and opened it up a little too much lol... Paid the deferral on that. My wife got clocked doing 65 in a 35, officer wrote it as a normal speeding ticket instead of reckless so we paid the deferral on that one as well.

That's true. I took a trip by Upstate NY earlier this month and had bad service. Even I couldn't report police when I saw them! In that case, I stayed around 65-70 (Speed limit was 65). In NYC, cops are reported pretty frequently. I've watched cops pull into their hiding spot and then I immediately report them.

I also agree with the low speed limits. On long island we have the Long Island Expressway. The speed limit is 55, but everyone is going 65-70. Its a 3 lane highway so I always stay in the middle and make sure I'm not the fastest car.

Do cops still use radar often? In NY, the cops switched to LIDAR so you can't detect it until it has already scanned you.

 

[RooflessVW]

Just wanted to comment on this here. A few years ago when I was in China, I noticed the cab driver accelerating on an empty highway up to 100kph on an empty highway, and then slamming on the brakes...repeatedly... didn't think much of it. After the 3rd or 4th cab ride, it hit me..."red light cameras"...

fast forward a couple of years, and pretty much everyone in China drives like this, constantly... There's some app that beeps on their phone, with the most annoying jingle you've every heard...brakes go on...

I agree police have better things to do, but this is the reality of the camera system...

In China, and perhaps the UK where the speed cameras are fixed. In Germany and Scandinavia, the cameras are moved periodically and strategically.

 

[meadows]

Because it levels the playing field. A $250 fine isn't going to deter someone making $250,000/yr like it would someone making $25,000/yr.

But $2,500 might.

" Fines are a dominant feature of American life, as certain as death and taxes. In every facet and context, they play some role in regulating behavior and expressing society’s moral reprobation. Perhaps because of that ubiquity, the way we impose fines is taken for granted, as if it were a law of nature that fines exact the same price from every offender, no matter her income. But as this Article has suggested, there is an alternative to the status quo, and it aligns at least as well with our intuitions about justice and the purposes of punishment. As more people awaken to the burden that criminal justice debt imposes on the poor, there may be an opportunity for a larger reconceptualization of financial sanctions. At a minimum, the tariff fine is an aspect of our justice system ripe for experimentation. "

https://lawreview.uchicago.edu/publication/constitutionality-income-based-fines

 

[Skippy722]

That's true. I took a trip by Upstate NY earlier this month and had bad service. Even I couldn't report police when I saw them! In that case, I stayed around 65-70 (Speed limit was 65). In NYC, cops are reported pretty frequently. I've watched cops pull into their hiding spot and then I immediately report them.

I also agree with the low speed limits. On long island we have the Long Island Expressway. The speed limit is 55, but everyone is going 65-70. Its a 3 lane highway so I always stay in the middle and make sure I'm not the fastest car.

Do cops still use radar often? In NY, the cops switched to LIDAR so you can't detect it until it has already scanned you.

In my area it’s mostly Ka band radar, but my county in particular has a lot of troopers still on K band. MultaRadar aka MRCD/MRCT is slowly gaining popularity in the US. But yes, getting a LIDAR alert basically means pull over now, unless you live in a state where you can jam LIDAR.

 

[Snagglefoot]

My Uncle and I were driving along over the speed limit with him at the wheel. We were stopped by an RCMP ( Royal Canadian Mounted Police) officer. My uncle is a retired RCMP officer, so when he presented his license, he also gave the officer my Uncle’s RCMP Alumni membership card. The officer took the two cards and ran them through then came back and they chit chatted about which detachments they served in. No ticket, no warning.

 

[bbhero]

Because it levels the playing field. A $250 fine isn't going to deter someone making $250,000/yr like it would someone making $25,000/yr.

But $2,500 might.

" Fines are a dominant feature of American life, as certain as death and taxes. In every facet and context, they play some role in regulating behavior and expressing society’s moral reprobation. Perhaps because of that ubiquity, the way we impose fines is taken for granted, as if it were a law of nature that fines exact the same price from every offender, no matter her income. But as this Article has suggested, there is an alternative to the status quo, and it aligns at least as well with our intuitions about justice and the purposes of punishment. As more people awaken to the burden that criminal justice debt imposes on the poor, there may be an opportunity for a larger reconceptualization of financial sanctions. At a minimum, the tariff fine is an aspect of our justice system ripe for experimentation. "

https://lawreview.uchicago.edu/publication/constitutionality-income-based-fines

Engels would love those individuals at that university.

 

[97prizm]

I got pulled over years ago by the Navajo Nation Police. I was doing the speed limit. Supposedly I was pulled over for having clear license plate covers. Then he wanted to search my csr. I told him no dice as i didn't commit a crime. Odd for not speeding.

 

[ecotourist]

Because it levels the playing field. A $250 fine isn't going to deter someone making $250,000/yr like it would someone making $25,000/yr.

But $2,500 might.

I understand that in Finland everyone's income is published annually. Makes for good reading apparently. And tickets are based on your income. A few years ago someone got a speeding ticket for 22 Km/hr (14 miles/hr) over the limit which was more than 50,000 Euros. That would get your attention.

 

[Ws6]

I was doing 88 miles per hour early this morning on the Turnpike in a 65 mph zone. I see the dreaded blue lights of an FHP Trooper and quickly pull over to the side of road a far as possible so he is not near the roadway exposed to passing traffic.

My insurance card and registration was old and didn’t have the newest paperwork (everything is valid and paid) so I’m thinking I will get 2 tickets. I apologized for speeding and he ran my license and gave me a warning.

He asked me why I’m speeding, I told him I’m headed 50 miles away and theres little traffic on the road. Luckily he gave me a warning and let me go. I was very surprised he didn’t give me a ticket.

I've had similar happen. If you own your crime, and it wasn't specifically putting anyone at risk, most officers will overlook it.

 

[Ws6]

I understand that in Finland everyone's income is published annually. Makes for good reading apparently. And tickets are based on your income. A few years ago someone got a speeding ticket for 22 Km/hr (14 miles/hr) over the limit which was more than 50,000 Euros. That would get your attention.

Noone deserves to know my income who isn't underwriting a loan, and who isn't employing me.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

My son said it was an elderly cop that pulled him over. It was in St. Landry Parish on a two lane highway that was a 17 mile straight a way. I raised my son to be VERY polite to his elders, and he said he was. He even told the cop his AR-15 was on his back seat, and his M&P was under his dash on his gun magnet. He said the cop thanked him for volunteering that information and for his safety, had my son stand in between the cop car and his truck while he ran his information.
My son had only owned the F150 for 4 days and said the truck ran so well that he never realized he was going so fast.
He now owns a radar detector like mine, a Cobra.

 

[tshephard]

While we're here...
What does a traffic cop typically actually 'see' with radar?
I think I see Troopers almost lining up sights (like a gun rail) but looking at a 'gun' fixed rear screen.
Is there a lot of: I see a 88mph reading while I think I'm lined up on the Challenger?
Is a picture stored, reading, car (or group)i n view?

 

[FT92]

in my local area , 5 mph over is what they allow anything more it is a definite ticket

 

[FLNative]

Sometimes get Lucky .. Was on my Motorcycle got me for 81 in a 60MPH zone .. Told her was passing a slow moving truck and didn't realize had my speed up that high and got a warning.. But as stated by others was polite as could be and was ready for a ticket .. Usually anything over 20 is an expensive one in Florida ..

 

[el Nuke]

Waze seems less useful now that you can’t report a police sighting while moving, and I’m not going to pull over to report every time I see one, or never get to where I’m going!

I suspect that’s the reason they updated Waze’s behavior in the first place.

 

[RooflessVW]

Noone deserves to know my income who isn't underwriting a loan, and who isn't employing me.

Except, you know, the state that you pay taxes to?

Unless you plan on paving your own roads, I suppose.

 

[OilReport99]

Because it levels the playing field.

Echoes from a recent past ringing in my ears...you really enjoyed that novel, didn't you?

 

[53' Stude]

Never had a speeding ticket in my life. Our roads in PA are horrible so I stay in the 60-70mph range

 

[Ws6]

Except, you know, the state that you pay taxes to?

Unless you plan on paving your own roads, I suppose.

I actually do pay to maintain my road, personally, as it is private property for 200+ acres and we (our POA) own said road. I wish we COULD privatize everything. That said, yeah, them too, sadly. Not thrilled about it though.

*$250/year, and it's a heck of a deal!