Highest-paying trade jobs in 2024, according to Indeed

wpod said:
Most aren't doing that great of a job.
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Teachers get beat on by everyone - on a regular basis. There certainly are some bad ones, and many good ones - just like years ago. They don't get paid enough for what they do.

Here a kid inappropriately touched a female teacher. Not in a passing manner. They tossed him, but the family fought it the judge forced the school to take him back - said the law said he was required to be educated. Many more examples. Every parent thinks there kids are perfect.

My daughters went to the same ho-hum high school. 40% of the kids were on free or reduced lunch - so very diverse. Both passed with honors, both got scholarships for STEM, one has her bachelors degree and is on her way to a masters in a month, the other has 1 year left of engineering. Education is what you make out of it. Smart kids with good homes do well everywhere. Not smart kids don't. Same as always.
 
ripcord said:
...and 100% of people who say, "Teaching is the hardest job," haven't driven long haul, cut lettuce or pulled romex for a living.
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I have worked some pretty tough jobs. Grew up on the farm, shop rat, oil field maintenance, road construction. Never quit, never didn't finish the job. I wouldn't last 2 hours as a public school teacher.
 
SC Maintenance said:
I have worked some pretty tough jobs. Grew up on the farm, shop rat, oil field maintenance, road construction. Never quit, never didn't finish the job. I wouldn't last 2 hours as a public school teacher.
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Only because you wouldn't put up with the crap that kids are allowed to get away with today. I'm 100% certain you would do a better job teaching highschool history classes than most doing it today.
 
ripcord said:
Only because you wouldn't put up with the crap that kids are allowed to get away with today. I'm 100% certain you would do a better job teaching highschool history classes than most doing it today.
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Doubtful. Many of my teachers were gifted at what they do.

Teachers are given strict curriculum. They have some latitude on exactly how they teach it - but the learning topics and units are fixed, and they usually have an approved textbook. If they deviate from it that is a management problem, so if you don't like what they history teacher is teaching - compare it to the curriculum and file a complaint. If they don't do anything - then its a admin / school board issue.

If your state is screwed up from top to bottom - and some are - then move.

I agree, today's kids need discipline the schools are not allowed to give. That would solve a lot of problems. Everyone is afraid of being sued, so you can blame the parents on that one.
 
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ripcord said:
...and 100% of people who say, "Teaching is the hardest job," haven't driven long haul, cut lettuce or pulled romex for a living.
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There are lots of hard jobs out there. Teaching takes a certain set of skills, different from labor. Personally I believe all labor is honorable.

I took the easy way out and got education later in life. Those teachers saved my bacon.
 
Jeff,

Yes, all labor is honorable and necessary. No job or career is perfect.

I was at the airport this week waiting for flight and I saw an employee draining the lavatory of aircraft and was driving a specialized ‘lavatory service’ truck. 💩

This service employee makes a lot less than the 777 pilots….. but his job is necessary and very important.

Lots of folks are like the Dunkin Donut guy getting out of bed and going to a job they really don’t like but need a paycheck to feed their family.
 
Dave Hess said:
Jeff,

Yes, all labor is honorable and necessary. No job or career is perfect.

I was at the airport this week waiting for flight and I saw an employee draining the lavatory of aircraft and was driving a specialized ‘lavatory service’ truck. 💩

This service employee makes a lot less than the 777 pilots….. but his job is necessary and very important.

Lots of folks are like the Dunkin Donut guy getting out of bed and going to a job they really don’t like but need a paycheck to feed their family.
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I've thrown newspapers, mowed lawns, cleaned windows, been a janitor and tree trimmer, pumped ethyl and more. That's hard work and pays squat.
Working in an AC office in clean clothes with free coffee and food, writing code, is not work. And pays bazillions.

That's my experience.
 
here in houston, you can make a six figure income with nothing but a high school diploma and 60 hour weeks. tons of jobs in the oil/gas industry. i worked trade jobs through high school/college and recently accepted a job using my M.E. degree. the trade-job experience i had in oil/gas was large contributing factor to get hired for my position with zero professional experience.
 
On of my coworkers is a former high school vice principal. Great guy. Lots of common sense and a generally good person. He did not like all the bureaucracy and politics of public schools and got out. He tried to help some kids out by not going by the book and got reprimanded.

I know a few good people that went the other way. Left "corporate America" to become school teachers. They lasted a couple years and came back to industry. Just too much bureaucracy and politics.
 
Had a good friend who was an RT (respiratory therapist). She went to school at Pima in Denver, which strikes a bit like the Wyotech of medical, but I could be wrong.

Schooling wasn't exactly cheap, but nothing medical is.

She hated the stress of the job, but that's a case-by-case basis. She probably wasn't the best personality for the work.

The biggest thing I saw was the shift work was pretty brutal. And if you wanted to make the better $ you had to take the night shifts on weekends. It made it difficult to have a life, but some people thrive on the odd hours. I'm not talking about missing a Friday night party, but about needing a whole day to adapt to a non-vampire schedule after prolonged graveyard shifts.

Still, it seems like a young person's game because you're way more resilient to late shifts or long shifts in your 20's and 30's (and 40's for some people)
 
JeffKeryk said:
I've thrown newspapers, mowed lawns, cleaned windows, been a janitor and tree trimmer, pumped ethyl and more. That's hard work and pays squat.
Working in an AC office in clean clothes with free coffee and food, writing code, is not work. And pays bazillions.

That's my experience.
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How do you go from saying all work is equal to saying office work isn't real work?
 
Pew said:
How do you go from saying all work is equal to saying office work isn't real work?
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I've had very similar experiences as JeffKeryk. Well, maybe not so many bazillions, cause I don't want to live in Silicon Valley, but I agree. Carrying roof tiles up a ladder is work. Sitting through requirements review meetings is a whole lot less work like. So much less sweating your guts out in the sun or freezing your posterior off in the rain.
 
Pew said:
How do you go from saying all work is equal to saying office work isn't real work?
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I said all work is honorable.

I did say, "Working in an AC office in clean clothes with free coffee and food, writing code, is not work."
That simply means my computer programming career was flat out easy as compared to any labor type job I've had. Going to work clean, sitting in an AC office with lots of freebies, breaks, etc. then going home clean is nothing in comparison to doing tree work all day in the hot sun. And a whole lot less injuries as well.
 
In the past I was posting paid apprenticeships here on BITOG for $25 an hour, paid training, paid travel, paid safety shoes, tool allowance, etc….

Zero interest from any person….. which is good cause that means people are gainfully employed.
 
People don't seem to want to work the trades much anymore. 30 years ago I placed an ad to train mechanical oriented people to become plumbers. Almost immediately I had about 20 applicants. Snagged a great guy out of that pool. Fast forward 25 years and an ad is ignored. 0 applicants. Sad. Decent living to be made here.
 
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