High quality 5W40 for BMW

[kschachn]

Off The Shelf. What is available at Walmart or other retailers.

In other words, buy the least expensive one that has actual Porsche A40 approval.

 

[TiGeo]

Pardon my lack of BITOG acronym knowledge, but what does OTS mean?

Off The Shelf meaning, easy to buy at most places that carry motor oil.

 

[sfbmw]

Quite the deal on a case RL 5W40

https://www.ebay.com/itm/404167345325?hash=item5e1a4044ad:g:kh8AAOSwnLBj7rV9

 

[ChristianReske]

Here in Germany Red Line oil sells for 30 Euro / Quart. Buy it?

 

[sfbmw]

Retail in the US is $16.97/qt, per case it's $15.67/qt, this is around $10/qt. Hard to say no to that!

 

[ChristianReske]

If you’re referring to the EngineLabs/MotorTrend article written by Lake Speed Jr, well, let’s just say that a couple of the board experts (formulators and blenders) have chimed in that many of the claims made in that article hold no water. This is from actual industry experts, not the vice president of marketing (as LSJ is). So, it’s not as critical of an indictment on diesel oil use in gas engines as the article would have you believe. Just sayin…

Thank you for inform me!

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Retail in the US is $16.97/qt, per case it's $15.67/qt, this is around $10/qt. Hard to say no to that!

Does it have LL-01/A40 approval? If not, it’s hard to say that it’s a good deal in your situation.

 

[sfbmw]

Does it have LL-01/A40 approval? If not, it’s hard to say that it’s a good deal in your situation.

"Suitable for VW/Audi 500.00/501.01/ 502.00/505.00/505.01, BMW LL-01, water-cooled Porsche A40 and Mercedes-Benz 229.1/229.3/229.5 applications"

https://www.redlineoil.com/5w40-motor-oil

 

[TiGeo]

"Suitable for VW/Audi 500.00/501.01/ 502.00/505.00/505.01, BMW LL-01, water-cooled Porsche A40 and Mercedes-Benz 229.1/229.3/229.5 applications"

https://www.redlineoil.com/5w40-motor-oil

Not the same as having the formal approval is what he was getting at. It's like Liquimoly Molygen 5W40 - not approved but "recommended for" cars requiring those typical Euro approvals. HPL is the same. If you *need* the approval, you will have to go with the one common OTS oils like M1 etc. If you trust the company that "recommends" their oil for cars requiring that approval, there are other options that of course are just fine to use like the Redline or HPL etc.

In before bickering about approvals vs. recommended for.

 

[BMW Dom]

I've been using Castrol 5w-40 in my parents' BMWs. Can't say anything bad.

I know it's not the "best", but it works.

 

[sfbmw]

Not the same as having the formal approval is what he was getting at. It's like Liquimoly Molygen 5W40 - not approved but "recommended for" cars requiring those typical Euro approvals. HPL is the same. If you *need* the approval, you will have to go with the one common OTS oils like M1 etc. If you trust the company that "recommends" their oil for cars requiring that approval, there are other options that of course are just fine to use like the Redline or HPL etc.

In before bickering about approvals vs. recommended for.

Redline is very well regarded within the BMW community. Approval not strictly necessary for a 28 year old car like mine.

 

[kschachn]

Redline is very well regarded within the BMW community. Approval not strictly necessary for a 28 year old car like mine.

You’ve got it pretty bad for Red Line.

 

[edyvw]

Redline is very well regarded within the BMW community. Approval not strictly necessary for a 28 year old car like mine.

No. But, you really, really don’t need that oil.

 

[TiGeo]

Redline is very well regarded within the BMW community. Approval not strictly necessary for a 28 year old car like mine.

Then use it..it's fine. You said you wanted LL01.

 

[sfbmw]

No. But, you really, really don’t need that oil.

Wait, you mean to tell me an increase in price doesn’t always correlate to an increase in quality

 

[ChristianReske]

Most People also dont need a Expensive coil over Suspension, better brakes or stikier Tyres on their car. Or a upgraded Stereo system.
Everything is fine, working and tested in Original condition, when the car is in the Showroom of the dealer. Why Change?

Because we like to do so. And because often it´s better than OEM.

And now? OTS oil from Walmart or the real Deal PAO+Ester + a very robust add pack from Red Line?
VOA of the Redline: https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/1620-redline-5w-40/

Is there any harm beside the hole in the wallet when one buy the best oil he could find compared to cheaper OTS oils from Walmart?

 

[edyvw]

Most People also dont need a Expensive coil over Suspension, better brakes or stikier Tyres on their car. Or a upgraded Stereo system.
Everything is fine, working and tested in Original condition, when the car is in the Showroom of the dealer. Why Change?

Because we like to do so. And because often it´s better than OEM.

And now? OTS oil from Walmart or the real Deal PAO+Ester + a very robust add pack from Red Line?
VOA of the Redline: https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/1620-redline-5w-40/

Is there any harm beside the hole in the wallet when one buy the best oil he could find compared to cheaper OTS oils from Walmart?

I am not sure that makes any sense.
When you upgrade brakes, suspension, you do it bcs. there is real benefit to it.
Oil is different. Are you saying Mobil1 doesn’t have PAO or Ester? It is available in Wal Mart. Castrol 0W40?

So, since you are comparing audio upgrades, suspension etc. tell me exactly where I am going to benefit running Redline 5W40 over Castrol 0W40? Here is UOA of Castrol 0W40 with 5k of which some 10% is track that includes sessions as long as 1 1/2hrs without pit stop at 1600m altitude, 40c ambient temperature. Left column. Right is Castrol Edge 0W30 winter conditions.

 

[sfbmw]

It’s a feel good thing. There may not be any mechanical benefit, but it may make me feel like I’m treating my toy to the best it can get! Logic would say M1 0W40 FS (or other similar OTS) at the end of the day.

 

[sfbmw]

One could argue Redline over other boutique oils like LM or Motul because they are forthcoming about the base stocks in the product.

 

[sfbmw]

I just went back and re-read some threads on a BMW forum that I frequent, lost of people using M1 0W40!