My only question, and maybe its been covered is noack values for these new oils?
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For the record each of the values on our PDS’s are measured. And although we are pretty precise repeating blends not every batch will be exactly the same.
As far as NOACK we do not have that instrument. We have a TGA instead. We have run TGA’s on quality competing oils and know that we are in very good shape. This is also evidenced by real world results like wwillson has seen in his zero make up 26,000 mile run on our 5w20.
I would also say common sense would dictate not every vehicle will have zero consumption like his. It is fair to say that if volatility were an issue of ours we would in fact see it there.
David
As far as NOACK we do not have that instrument. We have a TGA instead. We have run TGA’s on quality competing oils and know that we are in very good shape. This is also evidenced by real world results like wwillson has seen in his zero make up 26,000 mile run on our 5w20.
I would also say common sense would dictate not every vehicle will have zero consumption like his. It is fair to say that if volatility were an issue of ours we would in fact see it there.
David
We have a lot of viscosities in our product lines that are outside the official designated grades.
For that reason you see that statement. What you have with us are a lot more choices. You can also have confidence as we use the same good raw materials on the unofficial grades as well as the others.
David
Thank you! I wasnt expecting any volatility issues. Just curious of the percentages.
Plus none of that on their list nor on anyone else's list is a "specification". It's a list of typical values.
Specifications, licenses and approvals are a different list.
I'm really intrigued about the 0w-40 and 5w-40 Premium Plus oils. But how suitable would they be for a euro application? Would they be near say an LL-04 Mid-Saps or LL-01 Full Saps oil?
To answer your question directly they would do well. However the better path would be to use the correct additive chemistry for the euro oils. We have some of those now and are working on the rest of the grades we will be adding to that group. Once complete we will have a datasheet available.
David
Ok thanks for the quick reply! Kinda what I was thinking but figured I'd ask. Looking forward to those!
Also just did some additional clicking around, is this the current Euro 5w-30 offering you have? Or is this a different product line than what you are currently working on?
5W30 Synthetic Euro Motor Oil Quart
The 5w30 you are asking about is VW502. We have a new one of those and a 504/507 version as well.
David
Ok cool, thanks!
What are the typical properties of Euro 5W-30 / VW502.00 ?
Shoot I was just in St. Charles IL. Had I known you guys where so close I would have stopped by and picked up a case or 2. Next time I'm in IL, Ill definately pick some up, I like to support small US based companies.
Thank you.
We are currently making updates to our Euro oils. We will have them complete with the updated PDS to follow shortly.
David
Very interested in this. I’m in Wilmington quite often, would love to swing by and pick up some 0w-30 for the Giulia.
Let me know. Plan an extra hour when you come by and we will show you around. We should have the PDS within a week.
I'd like to try this 0W-40 at my place located north of the Anchorage area. I always worry about shipping costs though, and would need to investigate HPL distribution options.
Did I miss the VOAs for these oils? I'm seeing a heavy dose of calcium in the one that was posted, that I'm not thrilled about. Do the other two upper quality lines have it removed?
I'm not worried about meets or exceeds approvals anymore since I'm out of warranty, but I do need to be super mindful of LSPI because of my turbo hamster wheel. Still would love NOACK figures, but that's just part of how I compare things.
I'm not worried about meets or exceeds approvals anymore since I'm out of warranty, but I do need to be super mindful of LSPI because of my turbo hamster wheel. Still would love NOACK figures, but that's just part of how I compare things.
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See this post about calcium and LSPI
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/high-performance-lubricants-pds.325201/post-5397603
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