Heredity, and its power.

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Interested in yalls thoughts on heredity. Personal experiences and or observations..........not scientific conjecture, but personal observations on how heredity effects your being, regardless examples from upbringing.

I will share my experience.

My father, (more specifically to man who raised me) was not my biological father. I did not come to know this until after his death. A very impactful event for sure. I have always been very observant, dangerously so, and noticed as i got "older" that there were many differences between me and him.....in look, physicality, opinions, etc. He was the first executive casino host in Las Vegas, knowing many mobsters and affiliates, to include Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rosenthal , and Tony Spilotro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Spilotro . If you have seen the movie "Casino", you see a mirror image of my Father and Mother, and how I grew up. It was because of this, at a young age, needless to say, I saw a bunch of stuff, ""bad stuff. But I never followed the lifestyle........somewhat regretfully, and somewhat not. And I am not getting into my mothers side of the family....that much, but suffice to say that my grandmother was a tough as nails woman, a former prostitute from WV, and my "grandfather" was her pimp..............again terrible examples.

There was, to me, a great facination with military service. My father was an AirForce vet, but my fascination was with "direct action" units, combat arms, infantry, special operations etc. I joined in the Army. Infantry recruit, airborne, scouts, MI, graduate of OTC (https://www.americanspecialops.com/delta-force/selection/), but not a selectee due to unknown reason (which is common for someone to pass selection, but not be selected by a team). Anyway, none of these things were what my father had any interest in, and neither did my mother. Full 180 from what they thought, and what I was shown.

I mentioned earlier I found out that my dad was not my biological dad..........well in the same conversation, I was given insight to my biological dad, his dad, and my mother's real dad, (which was not know I understood it to be.) My biological father was a Frogman, or what is now called a SEAL, and his father was an officer in the Russian army sometime in the 40s. My biological grandfather was an officer in the OSS before and during WW2.

So, with all my upbringing, an all its examples, the drugs, the debauchery, the crime........ I ended up follow none of them, mostly (though I could have easily) instead following a closely matched path, to my biological father and grandfather(s). Again all unbeknownst to me until after the fact.

I could go on, as many here probably could, but just giving an insight to my opinion on the power of heredity, over examples in upbringing, that molds a person into being what they ultimately become. Heredity can be very powerful.
 
You are correct, there is a strong genetic component to who we are. Maybe more interestingly, things our ancestors learned and did is also passed down in some very minor form. Like you, I have many of the same interests my ancestors did.

I had no idea my ultra great grandfather was an airplane owner and pilot in Russia.
 
There used to be some debate on mental illness - nature vs nurture.

I have seen nature up close and personal. Nurture part, not so much experience there, but an unloved child will have problems.
 
Unloved children sometimes grow up to be adults with mental problems doing terrible things.

They will act out on these issues for attention.
There was a documentary on Netflix a while back on the topic. I do not recall the name of it, but it basically laid out the genetic precursors in the brain to becoming a psychopath. The precursors have to be there, but so too the environment must be such to trigger the psychopathic behavior. Basically, if you’re genetically predisposed to being a psychopath, as long as you grow up in a loving home it should not manifest.

Think of the genetics as the dynamite and the environment as the fuse. Each one is basically harmless without the other.
 
In terms of health as one ages, I think genetic inheritance is a strong factor.
Mental health is maybe another matter, since nature versus nurture is probably the determinate factor.
There is no doubt that how we were raised does reflect in our personalities and preferences, although sometimes in contrary ways.
Who else knows someone raised by a single mother under circumstances of forced frugality who then goes hog wild in spending as an adult?
 
There used to be some debate on mental illness - nature vs nurture.

I have seen nature up close and personal. Nurture part, not so much experience there, but an unloved child will have problems.
nature vs nurture.....

I could have very well been a drug dealer, or a murderer....

my nature is to be mean like hulk....smash!

my nurture was about 0.

but yet I and countless others became "ok" so to speak, whatever that means
 
The experts used to say that nature and nurture were inseparable, that it was a bit like asking what contributes more to the area of a rectangle, the length or the width.

But confounding that are the identical-twins-separated-at-birth studies, wherein the twins pursued remarkably paths in life (education, career, choice of spouse, etc.)

And now more recent research into epigenetics indicates that our environment (the nurture side) can change how our genes (the nature side) express themselves.

My personal opinion, reflecting back on my childhood, and looking at my experiences as a dad and granddad, is that most of the options are set at the factory.

Of course we try to give our children the best childhood we can, but people, even quite young ones, are who they are.
 
I have seen nature up close and personal.

They breed and they drive.
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My wife's family was engineers on her mom's side, my dad was not highly educated but good at math, I'm an Engineer, Our kids and grandkids are very bright. Both me and wife have a good work ethic and that has been handed down but that's environment IMHO
 
I still have a pretty full head of hair with no gray. My Brother still had the same when he died at age 75. I will be
69 on Jan 28th. We can thank our Dad's side for that. Mom's side had gray hair and the men went bald.
 
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