Heatwave PHEV Lesson

There's no source of direct sunlight that is going to heat the battery more than extreme driving. Now if you park the car after absolutely beating the tar out of it for extended time, of course the system will run until the battery cools. Most ICE cars will do the same too. I'm not sure why you'd think a sitting battery needs cooled when the car wants 120F+ when Supercharging. We'd be hearing Teslas all over the place with cooling fans running when randomly parked. I've never seen it.

I'd double check your settings if you're having this issue.
What car wants 120f when charging? That's nuts. My GT keeps temps around 100f when in max performance mode. Heat kills batteries.
 
What car wants 120f when charging? That's nuts. My GT keeps temps around 100f when in max performance mode. Heat kills batteries.
It’s the temperature target when Supercharging.
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I would think so, but apparently Tesla disagrees with us.


It does work!
Tesla cuts corners. They would definitely sacrifice longevity for top of the line 400v charge speeds. They have only improved brakes and thermal management after track issues going public forced them to, and the rumor is that they skew battery longevity data by excluding Supercharged and hot climate cars from their datasets. This seems consistent with "why does my battery only hold x percent?" Posts I often see on the fb groups of 1 to 2 year cars.
 
Tesla cuts corners. They would definitely sacrifice longevity for top of the line 400v charge speeds. They have only improved brakes and thermal management after track issues going public forced them to, and the rumor is that they skew battery longevity data by excluding Supercharged and hot climate cars from their datasets. This seems consistent with "why does my battery only hold x percent?" Posts I often see on the fb groups of 1 to 2 year cars.
I hear Tesla also steals candy from babies.
 
I hear Tesla also steals candy from babies.
I'm only interested in data and facts. I've owned everything from Ford to Acura to Kia to Toyota, and bought the best of each genre based on data at the time for my purposes. I continue to keep an eye on Tesla for my next vehicle, but they aren't there.
 
I'm only interested in data and facts. I've owned everything from Ford to Acura to Kia to Toyota, and bought the best of each genre based on data at the time for my purposes. I continue to keep an eye on Tesla for my next vehicle, but they aren't there.
Oh.

I find no other the equal. I regularly beat the EPA range in my Model Y. In-car reports 237 Wh/mile for the past 13,500 miles. Nobody has anything to equal FSD (supervised). I can stand in front of Walmart and call my car from the parking lot to come pick me up.
 
Oh.

I find no other the equal. I regularly beat the EPA range in my Model Y. In-car reports 237 Wh/mile for the past 13,500 miles. Nobody has anything to equal FSD (supervised). I can stand in front of Walmart and call my car from the parking lot to come pick me up.
Yeah, and while you may have gotten a good one, they vary. When I was cross shopping them, I saw tons of "my Tesla leaks water every time it rains" type posts. The MYPs also had a lot of motor failures and so forth in 2022/23. Fit and finish was abysmal on the ones I looked at.

Self summon? I don't want that liability. I do not trust a car with phantom braking issues to not run grandma down and cripple me with lawsuit debt for life.

Efficiency? Yes, my GT beats epa ratings too, averaging 240-250mi of actual range in good weather on CC2s.even 40k miles later nearly. It is rated 208. In 0f temps I get 150mi or so locked in awd.

Other nice things: HUD, dash in front of me, amazing seats, tires I can rotate vs staggered, amazing awd programming with eLSD. I can drive this up mountain passes on ice with all 4 tires spinning and correctly steer it, the algorithm is so on point (I did this once out of necessity. I was headed up my road when it began spinning all 4, so I eased off the throttle and it stopped...and then began sliding sideways off the banked road. It was all or nothing due to what my ignorance had gotten me into. Drove 1/4 mile by the odometer all 4 tires spinning around corners, reverse bank, etc, constantly up a 10-20% incline. Amazing programming.)


I am very happy with it and have plans to keep it for the remainder of the 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. Something I've never said about a car 2.5y in.
 
Yeah, and while you may have gotten a good one, they vary. When I was cross shopping them, I saw tons of "my Tesla leaks water every time it rains" type posts. The MYPs also had a lot of motor failures and so forth in 2022/23. Fit and finish was abysmal on the ones I looked at.

Self summon? I don't want that liability. I do not trust a car with phantom braking issues to not run grandma down and cripple me with lawsuit debt for life.

Efficiency? Yes, my GT beats epa ratings too, averaging 240-250mi of actual range in good weather on CC2s.even 40k miles later nearly. It is rated 208. In 0f temps I get 150mi or so locked in awd.

Other nice things: HUD, dash in front of me, amazing seats, tires I can rotate vs staggered, amazing awd programming with eLSD. I can drive this up mountain passes on ice with all 4 tires spinning and correctly steer it, the algorithm is so on point (I did this once out of necessity. I was headed up my road when it began spinning all 4, so I eased off the throttle and it stopped...and then began sliding sideways off the banked road. It was all or nothing due to what my ignorance had gotten me into. Drove 1/4 mile by the odometer all 4 tires spinning around corners, reverse bank, etc, constantly up a 10-20% incline. Amazing programming.)


I am very happy with it and have plans to keep it for the remainder of the 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. Something I've never said about a car 2.5y in.
I’ve heard the horror stories on Teslas, but I must have gotten lucky all 3 times now. I will say there was a small panel gap issue on the new car with the front trunk and an imperfection on the front bumper and right rear quarter panel. The front trunk panel gap was fixed by adjusting the rubber bumpers around the edges of the trunk and the two marks in the paint were fixed with my buffer in the garage. Annoying, but I was not going to give them the opportunity to screw something up when I could handle it myself.

Summon is cool, but I don’t trust it either.

I plan to keep mine a long time, but I always plan to do that unless something comes up. It’s the financially responsible thing. Realistically even with issues the long warranty should keep it from adding cost, but we all have our jumping off point when it comes to that.
 
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