in my experience holding the shotgun lightly, makes it easier to shoot fast and control the recoil. tight cheek weld.You ain't holding it in tight enough.
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Anyone who ever owned a fish n ski boat never got a 2nd oneWhat I should have added was knowing him he might buy a slug barrel in time, and he might even set it up for trap. In which case I won't be lending him my 500.
True. I was referring to a high, tight shoulder mount and pull it into the "pocket". Medium grip on foreend, lighter grip on handle/stock with trigger hand. Squeeze. Bang.
He got a quote of $700 for this Mossberg 500 from a local dealer. Ordering and having it shipped to an FFL ended up costing quite a bit more.
The FFL wants their cut it appears. I haven't bought a gun in close to 20 years now. I used to pay $10- $20 for a transfer, those days are long gone.
He's about 5'10" 175-180 lbs.
Excellent. But you got my point. Basic physics. A 5 pound 12ga can be brutal, try it with magnum shells.
Can't go wrong with a Mossberg. If budget is a concern just get the Maverick 88. Honestly the best $200 gun on the planet.
https://www.defensedepot.com/product/maverick-arms-31046-88-security-blued-12-gauge-20-3-71
Should be fine with the guns mentioned. How much practicing will he be doing?
I wouldn’t recommend a shotgun for a new shooter or minimal skill shooter (which is 99% of people) These are experts weapons that need a lot of training to even become somewhat proficient with. I’ve trained with SWAT and tier 1/2 guys, so I know a thing about fighting guns.
The Mossberg… isn’t even on the radar. A fighting shotgun is a Beretta A300 Patrol, Beretta 1301, Benelli M2, or Benelli M4.
If he REALLY wants a fighting shotgun the list above is it. If he is on a budget, the A300 Patrol can be had for $900-$1000. A bit more than a Mossberg but a far better fighting gun.
If he is a low skill shooter, which is 97% likely, I’d recommend a 9MM pistol caliber carbine for defensive use over the shotgun. There are several from Smith&Wesson, Beretta, Ruger, CZ and others that are reliable and in his price range.
If he is REALLY stuck on the pump shotgun nonsense for some reason, avoid the 20 inch barrels. The 18’s handle SO much better and just feel so much better in the hand in actual use.
The Mossberg… isn’t even on the radar. A fighting shotgun is a Beretta A300 Patrol, Beretta 1301, Benelli M2, or Benelli M4.
If he REALLY wants a fighting shotgun the list above is it. If he is on a budget, the A300 Patrol can be had for $900-$1000. A bit more than a Mossberg but a far better fighting gun.
If he is a low skill shooter, which is 97% likely, I’d recommend a 9MM pistol caliber carbine for defensive use over the shotgun. There are several from Smith&Wesson, Beretta, Ruger, CZ and others that are reliable and in his price range.
If he is REALLY stuck on the pump shotgun nonsense for some reason, avoid the 20 inch barrels. The 18’s handle SO much better and just feel so much better in the hand in actual use.
Good question, probably quite a bit if he goes for it.
This is fascinating. I'm a casual hunter with more experience on shotguns vs. rifles and no experience with handguns.
Please expand on your opinion that a handgun would be more effective. I'm thinking that in the heat of the moment, the shotgun would have more margin for error. I'm guessing that in this instance the person is going to do minimal training, not visiting the range often.
EDIT: Per AZjeff below, oops - misread the 9MM pistol caliber carbine part. Idiot! Thank you.
This thread covers the discussion well: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/pcc-vs-shotgun-for-home-defense.374932/
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Both of these statements are not on the topic at hand, but are 10000% true.
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ugly, but great choice.
Mossberg 590S for me. It's designed for the 1.75" shells to function well, giving several more rounds without reloading.
Agreed. I have one and it is great for the money.
I have a 590A1 and love it. Very accurate out of the box. Mostly use it for bear protection. I’d suggest your friend take a decent couple day class once he gets his shotgun. Just like handguns and AR’s, training is key and there is more to running a shotgun than one would think.
Home defense can be broad too, is he worried about an intruder inside his home or at his door, or does he want something to protect a 5 acre property? Maybe an AR would suit him better?
Home defense can be broad too, is he worried about an intruder inside his home or at his door, or does he want something to protect a 5 acre property? Maybe an AR would suit him better?
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LOL, are you dating it or defending the homestead with it?
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