A local distributor near me has 0w30 and 5w40 Havoline pro-ds euro. I saw the thread from earlier where you mentioned it. Roughly 160 for 6 gal pitpack… I am not sure if it’s good oil or not.
It’s going to be good oil. Chevron does a good job with their products. That price puts it in stout competition though from Mobil, Pennzoil, Valvoline & Castrol. Not the price savings you’d hope for with a box purchase. I think most would just opt for Mobil 1 ESP 0w-30 or maybe Pennzoil Euro L 5W-40 at that price point without needing to buy 6 gallons.
Havoline Pro DS Full Synthetic, Pro DS Lifelong High Mileage Full Synthetic, and Pro DS Euro Full Synthetic are group 3+ oils and have excellent additives.
“Good oil” was probably not the best choice words… should have said is this oil going to compete against what is more readily in the marketplace, like the examples you had given.
Same. Had my eye on them as well. Was speaking from the typical member point of view.
If you paid $11 for a Toyota filter, you got scammed. They are like $4-5 at the dealer.
Send to Oil Analyzers, Polaris, or Wearcheck for best results. Anyone but Blackstone or Speediagnostix.
I called the distributor this morning to confirm pricing, and it turned out to be around $31 a gallon in the six-pack.
Yes. World class formulation expertise completely disinterested in light duty passenger markets.
I think it's a long run for a short slide. Many cheaper options off the shelf at Walmart with same or better approvals.I called the distributor this morning to confirm pricing, and it turned out to be around $31 a gallon in the six-pack.
Boswell Oil Company is the distributor with a storefront to purchase it. I have one close to my house. Maybe I can commit to it for a few oil changes in both of my vehicles and send this off to get it analyzed
If there were more interest in it, I’d probably geek out and do it for BITOG’s sake. That said, I was fairly set on transitioning to HPL for the longer interval capability - and honestly, to get my wife off the “why are you changing it at 70%” comment (around 5k on her hybrid). A solution that supports more distance between changes just makes more sense for us.
I appreciate the thought. I just think the Havoline Euro is so inaccessible for 99.9% of people that even if the VOA and UOA were really good, it wouldn't be too helpful because it is so hard to get or even impossible for most.If there were more interest in it, I’d probably geek out and do it for BITOG’s sake. That said, I was fairly set on transitioning to HPL for the longer interval capability - and honestly, to get my wife off the “why are you changing it at 70%” comment (around 5k on her hybrid). A solution that supports more distance between changes just makes more sense for us.
I agree, and yes, @Hohn has been super helpful from a knowledge perspective...
You'd be more than ok. In Atlanta, I'd run the 15W-40 PCMO like @Hohn, in both. He's much farther north than you too.
Don't use Blackstone or Speediagnostix!
I use ALS (wix). You have to send them to the Cleveland location for the GC - Atlanta doesn't have GC capabilities for gas, only Diesel.
His lab has a ton of errors. We see it all the time. He sends stuff back for a "recheck" all the time.
Chevron has a contract with ALS & Polaris for their LubeWatch (used oil analysis) program. I'd venture a guess they're a solid outfit, they just mostly cater to industrial & large commercial operations.