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Has enthusiasm for electric cars waned?
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Data gathered by Consumer Reports from owners of over 330,000 vehicles ranging from model years 2000 to 2024 show that EVs are 79 percent less reliable than ICE-powered vehicles on average, despite fewer moving parts and simpler drivetrain designs. Plug-in hybrids are even worse when it comes to reliability, with a staggering 146 percent more problems versus traditional gas-powered cars. Interestingly, traditional hybrid vehicles scored best, producing 26 percent fewer problems versus ICE-powered vehicles.
Data gathered by Consumer Reports from owners of over 330,000 vehicles ranging from model years 2000 to 2024 show that EVs are 79 percent less reliable than ICE-powered vehicles on average, despite fewer moving parts and simpler drivetrain designs. Plug-in hybrids are even worse when it comes to reliability, with a staggering 146 percent more problems versus traditional gas-powered cars. Interestingly, traditional hybrid vehicles scored best, producing 26 percent fewer problems versus ICE-powered vehicles.
Yes, but are these powertrain problems or infotainment problems?
Mine hasn't, at least over 6 months
And I think it would've by now, I'm easily bored
I spend 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, rain or shine behind the wheel of that 2022 Bolt
And with recent price cuts, it's a fine automobile IMO @ $27k
An excellent EV buy
I didn't have any major behind the wheel time with any EV before it came along
And while a Tesla is cooler, and a Mach E more comfortable, this blends functionality for the
perfectly 
If I was in the new car market, It makes a very strong case for itself IMO
And I'm not one to praise GM, I loathe many things they've done over the past few decades, this was a rare winner
I'm waiting for it to break down, leave me stranded, or burst into flames like the haters say all EVs do
All that's gone wrong is the bubbling of two tires due to NYC roads
If you attended the '64 NY Worlds Fair, or saw Men In Black, this should look familiar
And I think it would've by now, I'm easily bored
I spend 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, rain or shine behind the wheel of that 2022 Bolt
And with recent price cuts, it's a fine automobile IMO @ $27k
An excellent EV buy
I didn't have any major behind the wheel time with any EV before it came along
And while a Tesla is cooler, and a Mach E more comfortable, this blends functionality for the
perfectly If I was in the new car market, It makes a very strong case for itself IMO
And I'm not one to praise GM, I loathe many things they've done over the past few decades, this was a rare winner
I'm waiting for it to break down, leave me stranded, or burst into flames like the haters say all EVs do
All that's gone wrong is the bubbling of two tires due to NYC roads
If you attended the '64 NY Worlds Fair, or saw Men In Black, this should look familiar
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CR rates Teslas as the #1 cars in customer satisfaction, which they call the best indicator of repeat sales.
CR survey population is from subscribers which is hardly a proper scientific approach. Some of their individual vehicle model survey counts are like 10 or 11.
Please don't get me wrong; I subscribed to CR for years. I also understand statistics and proper surveys. But most important I understand the importance of rigorous, open minded survey interrogation to glean meaningful results. Without them, numbers can mean anything you want them to mean.
What is your experience with a Tesla or other EV?
2022 tesla 3.
And? I would be curious about your thoughts and experiences with the car. Then I can compare it to my experience which is 5 years of ownership.
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Thanks for asking - I move them. I have an airport parking pass, so at least one goes to the garage there. Up the street - it's several feet higher, so one or two there, and one down in the shop along with the Packard.
it's actually a 2023. it's my girlfriend car. she co owns 3 pharmacy stores on her family side and use that car mainly to go to work. they also have 3 Chevy Bolt they use for pharmacy deliveries. i frankly almost never drive it. as i am retired and often go on extented road trips alone. it has quite a good ride. i like the fact that Elon is quite the character. his latest antics have made me an even bigger fan. his latest stunt on the New York TImes DealBook Summit is worthy of Linus Torvalds vs Nvidia. it is the only reason i would buy an electric vehicle. and a tesla exclusively.
From your link - CR shows Tesla at 14 out of 30 reliability wise.
Tesla should be the vast majority of the sample so which is true?
Maybe the other electric offering drag the segment down tremendously ?
CR often write and publishes contradictory data. Their survey shows the models in each cars brand that were sampled and there are often a high number of missing models for example Porche shows up as number 8 but only the Macan and the Cayenne are in the survey.
Electric cars and electric SUVs don’t fare much better, with average reliability scores of 44 and 43, respectively. At the bottom of our vehicle-type rankings are electric pickup trucks, with an average score of 30.
As more EVs hit the marketplace and automakers build each model in greater numbers, we are seeing that some of them have problems with the EV drive system motors, EV charging systems, and EV batteries (which are different from the low-power 12-volt batteries that power accessories). Owners of the Ford F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E, Genesis GV60, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia Niro EV and EV6, Subaru Solterra, Toyota bZ4X, and Volkswagen ID.4 all reported some of these issues.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car...who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/
OT but after watching Andrew Ross Sorkin's interview with Musk on CNBC last night and I regained a bit of the respect I once had for Elon Musk. Musk was asked questions about companies pulling ads from X. His reply was epic, and unedited, when he told Disney's Bob Iger to go * himself, along with other companies that pulled ads. There was a time I liked Musk, [not Tesla]. After yesterday I gained a bit more respect for Elon. 
As a side note he seems like a bit of a space cadet and must be very awkward in a social setting.
As a side note he seems like a bit of a space cadet and must be very awkward in a social setting.Youd buy a car because of the founder?
It's is autism. He's simply unable to grasp what's going on. Ignorance disguised as bravado.OT but after watching Andrew Ross Sorkin's interview with Musk on CNBC last night and I regained a bit of the respect I once had for Elon Musk. Musk was asked questions about companies pulling ads from X. His reply was epic, and unedited, when he told Disney's Bob Iger to go * himself, along with other companies that pulled ads. There was a time I liked Musk, [not Tesla]. After yesterday I gained a bit more respect for Elon.
Yep, something is going on. I really enjoyed him singling out Iger. I'd love to see him buy Disney, level it, and build houses there.
LOL..Ya a guy who's emotionally stunted trying to run an company which is in a business sector that is sells emotions.Yep, something is going on. I really enjoyed him singling out Iger. I'd love to see him buy Disney, level it, and build houses there.
But, you have to look at the whole system, not just the cars. For example, our home is about 150 years old and we have no garage. We would have to spend close to $10grand just to upgrade the service and wiring into our home before we could even install a proper Level 2 charger. Even then the car would live outdoors through NE winters, sometimes cold soaking at well below zero for many nights. And, then we travel to various places a lot that have no charging infrastructure and likely never will: hiking trails, wild beaches, mountains, etc. Sure, we could charge along the way someplace, but that will add time and logistics to any trip. I have surveyed available charging stations along a route I take a lot and there is really only one in a godforsaken rest area I avoid because it is always over crowded. Same problem if we want to visit my daughter or my son. So, for me an EV would be very inconvenient right now. Not impossible, but I will wait for some of these problems to get sorted out.