Has anyone ever experienced problems using ARX?

[panthermike]

Just curious, as I am looking to do this on my girlfriends corolla with 134K. It has a consumption issue as well as a ping that I cannot get to go away. I was reading about a ring issue with this car.

Anyways, anyone ever experience problems or should I use with confidence? Just asking because I saw that thread that was deleted about a guy stating three vehicles he used arx in had to have head gaskets replaced shortly after.

Thanks in advance

 

[RedOak]

Use this product with confidence. I am in the rinse cycle with my company truck and my personal truck. No head gasket failures. This is the best product to slowly loosen grime in your engine during the cleaning phase. When you go to the rise phase all the goo will go to your filter via the carrier oil. It is gentle to seals compared to the 10 minute flushes. You have to have patience but if you follow the instructions to the tee your motor will be clean and operate at top efficiency. Auto-rx is not harsh on your oil. Matter of fact it is proven to reduce friction which lowers crankcase temps. A great product. I am sure others will say the same.

 

[Quest]

no problems with AutoRx at all.

Q.

 

[-Clayton-]

Auto-rx slashed my tires and ran off with my wife.

 

[steve20]

wish he'd run off with my wife-and take the dog too

 

[Mucho_MPG]

Auto-RX cures sickle cell anemia and is good for gout.

 

[Gary Allan]

Thousands of applications are done annually. Any inference that it has any effect on head gaskets is nonsense. That guy admitted that he didn't blame Auto-Rx for his failures ..and also admitted that he wanted Frank to investigate what happened ..naturally at Franks expense. He basically, imo, wanted to shake Frank down in plain sight by throwing out some "fear factor" hoping that Frank would buckle to his demands to shut him up. Wrong vendor.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Thousands of applications are done annually. Any inference that it has any effect on head gaskets is nonsense. That guy admitted that he didn't blame Auto-Rx for his failures ..and also admitted that he wanted Frank to investigate what happened ..naturally at Franks expense. He basically, imo, wanted to shake Frank down in plain sight by throwing out some "fear factor" hoping that Frank would buckle to his demands to shut him up. Wrong vendor.

 

[oilboy123]

Well if you call solving my pinging problem a problem. I call it a miracle. I could not get rid of it no matter what I did.

Had three dealers do stuff to it as well. Solved the pinging while still in the clean phase. Also got rid of a lifter tick at high speed. I went fishing in Alaska in 04 and when I came back the pinging was gone. My Daughter had been driving my car.

I just do the maintenanve dose to keep it clean.
It sounds too good to be true, but I am a believer.

 

[panthermike]

Sounds good, I have been reading alot of great stuff on here about it and it seems to be a perfect product to use in this corolla.

I didn't get to read the whole thread, it was deleted before I did, but that's good to know.

I will be ordering the ARX tonight.

Steve20, I can understand the wife but the dog too?

Curing sickle cell anemia eh?, never had that problem, although after rubbing lucas oil on my back, no more pain!

 

[panthermike]

Originally Posted By: oilboy123
Well if you call solving my pinging problem a problem. I call it a miracle. I could not get rid of it no matter what I did.

Had three dealers do stuff to it as well. Solved the pinging while still in the clean phase. Also got rid of a lifter tick at high speed. I went fishing in Alaska in 04 and when I came back the pinging was gone. My Daughter had been driving my car. I just do the maintenanve dose to keep it clean.
It sounds too good to be true, but I am a believer.


That's pretty awesome. We have also tried everything. Cleaned maf, plugs, filters, fuel additives, even seafoam through the brake booster hose, all to no avail.

I absolutely cannot stand the ping, makes me happy when I get back to my lincoln. I always keep the radio on in her car, otherwise it drives me crazy.

Realistically, I would be just happy if it helped with the consumption( about 2 qts per 3K), but would be thrilled if the ping disappears.

 

[Johnny]

I understand the cleaning process of ARX, but cannot quite figure out how it would help with a pinging problem since pinging usually has to do with detonation. I am all ears.

 

[panthermike]

Originally Posted By: Johnny
I understand the cleaning process of ARX, but cannot quite figure out how it would help with a pinging problem since pinging usually has to do with detonation. I am all ears.


I have no idea on this, out of my league. but i am hoping that If there are deposits causing something, it will loosen them up.

Like i said though, if it slowed the consumption, the ARX would definately be a good investment.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: Johnny
I understand the cleaning process of ARX, but cannot quite figure out how it would help with a pinging problem since pinging usually has to do with detonation. I am all ears.


This would be just my speculation. That is, if I used Auto-Rx and had pinging eliminated or reduced after its use this is what I would pull out of my behind in reconstructing the dinosaur from a pig's tooth.

One would be if blow-by was so bad pre-Auto-Rx that it put too much heavy oil vapor into the intake stream. The other could be that the piston/rings were so coked up that any cooling action of the normal oil flow was insulated.

 

[dargo]

I know (1) person that had an issue with a car. Their post was removed on "a forum", happens from time to time, and the guy posted the PM he got from the owner. Meanwhile he was pounced on by several members. Respose was "your engine had leaks anyway".

I have seen posts that say it works and some not. I tried it in 5 cars. 3 out of 5 showed nothing in oil color, mpg gains, oil fitler shavings etc. The other 2 showed a little more power but oil color was clear on both phases.

YMMV

 

[Gary Allan]

So, your endless relentless beef is that you only had improvement in two cars? Ask for your money back and, in fairness, degrade the two cars that showed improvement back to their former states. I mean .. obviously resent the improvements so much.

 

[dargo]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
So, your endless relentless beef is that you only had improvement in two cars? Ask for your money back and, in fairness, degrade the two cars that showed improvement back to their former states. I mean .. obviously resent the improvements so much.

I am not "beefing" on anything. Just stating what I saw or witnessed. Did it clean anything, to early to tell. I have a before UOA and waiting till I do one complete drain cycle with nothing then testing on next (using same oil, Amsoil).

Yes I could ask for $$$ back but it showed improvements in 30% of the cars. Now, if it did not work in the other 70%, fine; it was break even. But asking for money back and saying it did not work would well, would that post here able to stay? It would be shown that I did not read the outlined instructions etc etc. I am not "beefing" on anything but what I did, witness etc in my own cars.

I have tried diesel, kero, seaform, 131 etc and all work to some extent. I am down to 3 product for flushing/cleaning or whatever you want to call it.

Does it work, in some cars yes and some no. I am leaning to think, in my years/engine trying, if you use fuel adds and a good oil, they are not needed. People can post on ring packs blah blah...So it works for some and not in others (taken care of)...AS noted before YMMV

Ps. Gary, did Amsoil Saber go up or something? In the latgest Action news it has something in the back..I wish it was able to be bought in gallons..

 

[Gary Allan]

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Now, if it did not work in the other 70%, fine; it was break even. But asking for money back and saying it did not work would well, would that post here able to stay?


Well, why not? First, if you wanted your money back, you call Frank and talk to him about it.
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It would be shown that I did not read the outlined instructions etc etc.


Which, if this is the case, then you would not warrant a refund

I mean, am I missing something here

..or are you saying that someone would infer that you didn't follow the instructions even if you did?? I don't think that I've ever really seen that.

(calm voice moment ..think of us as old pals ..walking in an arboretum spending quality time)

Look around, dargo (gesturing at all the various flora around us with a sweeping motion of my arms)..with the instructions being plainly in print ..and thousands of references to "please read and follow the instructions" ... look at how many posts ask for clarification and "can I do this" and "can I do that" and whatnot.

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Does it work, in some cars yes and some no.


Well, I'd say that it works on any car. The need end of it will be variable ..and so will the results. Not much need ..not much result

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I am leaning to think, in my years/engine trying, if you use fuel adds and a good oil, they are not needed.


As was dnewton3's leanings before he did compression checks and found 2 cylinders dipping their collective paddle. Now, in absence of such insult, you may be correct. That is probably the exception as opposed to the rule.

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I have tried diesel, kero, seaform, 131 etc and all work to some extent. I am down to 3 product for flushing/cleaning or whatever you want to call it.


Now ..and this is a rhetorical question (one that I don't really expect an answer to) you use these 3 or 4 items even if you don't need them (doing the aforementioned good fuel adds and using a good oil)

Wouldn't something like the maintenance dose be cheaper?

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People can post on ring packs blah blah

This has been documented quite a bit. Naturally, it has to be the case for it to be corrected. This is a major benefit. The visuals aren't all that important other than demonstration of effectiveness.

On the Saber ..I haven't had cause to order it lately and I'm behind on my Action News too ..I'm embarrassed to say

 

[dargo]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

Well, why not? First, if you wanted your money back, you call Frank and talk to him about it.

I should not have to talk to anyone. My point was, if it worked in the other 30%, it, I would break even.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

Which, if this is the case, then you would not warrant a refund

I mean, am I missing something here

..or are you saying that someone would infer that you didn't follow the instructions even if you did?? I don't think that I've ever really seen that.

I followed the instructions at the current time; but people, I think you do the double deal, I do not have the product to do that.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

(calm voice moment ..think of us as old pals ..walking in an arboretum spending quality time)
Look around, dargo (gesturing at all the various flora around us with a sweeping motion of my arms)..with the instructions being plainly in print ..and thousands of references to "please read and follow the instructions" ... look at how many posts ask for clarification and "can I do this" and "can I do that" and whatnot.

My take is if people ask all these questions, something is wrong with the process/instructions. They should be clear etc thus this would not happen.

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

This has been documented quite a bit. Naturally, it has to be the case for it to be corrected. This is a major benefit. The visuals aren't all that important other than demonstration of effectiveness.

But I have asked for pix of rings packs etc. I am NOT saying it is bad but out of 5 cars, 70% didn't do much. I have a few company trucks that I could use on (about 8). I might buy 1 case but still wondering here.

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

On the Saber ..I haven't had cause to order it lately and I'm behind on my Action News too ..I'm embarrassed to say

Well what the %%&^& is that! LOL.. I used about 4 gallons a year and wish they had gallons.

 

[saaber1]

Originally Posted By: panthermike

if it slowed the consumption, the ARX would definately be a good investment.


Just finished 2nd rinse phase of a two bottle dose (24oz) on a 98 volvo turbo (approx. 1000 mile clean, then 1200 mile rinse, then 1800 mile rinse) and car used to use 1.5 qts per 3000 miles. No oil consumption for that last 1800 mile rinse which is a huge improvement.

However I have to get at least 3000 miles on the same oils I was using before to say for sure that auto-rx did it and not oil type. But sure looks good at this point.

FYI There was noticeable gunk in both rinse phases and no visible change in the clean phase. Mileage improved by 2 mpg in clean phase and then went back down in the rinse phases.