Hard To Beat Meguiar's Ultimate Wax !

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Out of curiosity - do you chose Duragloss for these types of cars - as included in the price of your service?

Do you offer other, higher-end products if the customer should want something else, such as Blackfire Wet Diamond, Wolfgang Fusion, etc...?
 
Just some pics for the classic car fans, these cars are worth way over a million dollars each, thus they aren't driven much, get prepped very well (the most important part) and waxed with Swissvax, Wolfgang, Dodo, Pinnacle or other Concourse waxes for cars like these. But again, all the work is in the prep.
 
See, I somehow knew you weren't laying Duragloss on them.
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Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Warstud
No thanks....I'll stick with NuFinish since it's cheaper and lasts longer.


It doesn't last that long...


Still posting false [censored] I see...*****!


Unless you have scientific proof NF lasts longer than most of the others, then you're just posting blather...


The same goes for the blather out of your mouth as well....prove YOUR ridiculous claims. I disappear and venture into other topics and wander back hear. The 1st thread I click on, and hear you are still spreading misinformation...*****!!!
 
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The fact of the matter in the end is that almost nothing beats a 100% quality Brazilian carnauba wax to show off a great car-show shine. That's nothing revolutionary or new.

For that reason, those expensive carnauba's are used most often for car shows, which helps to keep many detailers in business (along with folks who don't mind spending $200-$400 about every other month to sustain the carnauba visual effects. Unfortunately...carnauba doesn't last very long, nor does it provide ideal protection against some of the newer environmental surface pollutants.

The "my shine beats your shine" or "look at how water beads up" subjective views don't really prove the actual protection of a car's finish. The illustrate the visual appearance for the most part and some of the coating results, but not the chemistry/physics behind auto surface protection.

Those are exactly the reasons why products (and there are many of them) like Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid were created - to overcome the limitations of plain carnauba wax.

As many have stated...it's much easier & quicker to apply, protects paint & clear-coat surfaces very well against harmful pollutants, lasts much longer between applications...all while being very cost-effective.

For the 98% of the public that wants to sustain a nice appearance with strong protection of a vehicle's exterior at a reasonable cost and without spending countless hours doing it...I have yet to see any product or actual evidence that other products achieve these requirements any better than Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid.

Fact is you don't sustain market share for decades in an industry with such numerous products offered, unless you have proven products that consumers want & prefer.

For the other 2% of folks obsessed with their vehicle's appearance (and for expensive and classic car owners, as well as a few of us that simply enjoy the detailing experience) - paying a detailer to do the work and/or using alternative products that make folks happy is likely the way to go.

I'm in that last 2%, as are many of the folks who have posted in this and other threads on detailing - I actually enjoy doing detailing tasks on our vehicles, and welcome the nice appearance that comes from it. Every vehicle we have owned has been sustained with good car care. I don't mind spending a couple hours doing things the right way as well. I also leverage using proven products and processes (DA polisher, polisher pads, quality car wash products, professional clay bar, polishing products, glaze products, "sealant waxes", detailing spray waxes, etc.). I also know I am not alone with that enjoyment and passion.

Congrats to those who take the time, make the effort, and follow their passions in detailing - the various pix show off your hard work and the great results.

If someone ever finds something that beat's Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid for that portion/step of detailing...and can prove it...I'll be the first to buy it.

Until then...the contrarian noise will probably just continue.
 
PimTac said:
In the end, budget and accessibility plus prior experience will be the primary reasons for purchasing. Nobody wants to buy a bottle of sealant and get stuck with it after being disappointed.

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There's always a first time trying a new product no matter where it's sold, or what name is on the bottle. I bought many brand name products in the brick and mortar stores that I didn't like, though I haven't had many I didn't like of the ones bought online. I just try doing some research before I buy and that usually helps...
 
Originally Posted By: Chris B.


The same goes for the blather out of your mouth as well....prove YOUR ridiculous claims. I disappear and venture into other topics and wander back hear. The 1st thread I click on, and hear you are still spreading misinformation...*****!!!


That's the difference between you and I. I've never claimed to prove anything, while you have. The burden of proof is on you. I've merely said I've used the products mentioned in this thread and that I get better results with other product besides NF. You claim it can't be, then post a bunch of pictures and call it proof. Sorry that's not proof of anything...
 
Originally Posted By: FastEddie
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: 007
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Used by Professionals


NOT


Did you click on the link that was posted for Duragloss sealants? A professional detailer on here uses their products with very good results.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub...501#Post3118894

Yup, Duragloss works great for me and plenty of other detailers that make their living detailing cars. Working smart when you do this full time.


I concur. It made a good living for me when I detailed for income. Those that deny it simply have no knowledge of the products or the professionals that use them. #501 & #105 were my mainstays.

I also agree that Meg's Ultimate Liquid is a very good product. As mentioned, it can be purchased practically anywhere which is an advantage over paying shipping. They all have their place even NuFinish.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Chris B.


The same goes for the blather out of your mouth as well....prove YOUR ridiculous claims. I disappear and venture into other topics and wander back hear. The 1st thread I click on, and hear you are still spreading misinformation...*****!!!


That's the difference between you and I. I've never claimed to prove anything, while you have. The burden of proof is on you. I've merely said I've used the products mentioned in this thread and that I get better results with other product besides NF. You claim it can't be, then post a bunch of pictures and call it proof. Sorry that's not proof of anything...


You have made claims and every single time someone posts they like NF you are on them saying it is junk and does not last when many have shown otherwise. A majority finds it to last as advertised or close to it. Those pictures were taken over a years time and show the product is still working. Still waiting for you to post even one single picture of your work regardless of what you used on it. Detailers kind of like to show their work...you know, kind of like in this thread.
 
Originally Posted By: Warstud
The same two instigators are gonna get this thread locked too.


I'm sorry man! I stop for long periods of time to avoid this stuff. Grampi just keeps on with his misinformation. I'm going to call him on it like I have for years. I stop when he stops. I already made peace with him and we agreed to bury the hatchet and 2 or 3 years later he is still posting his junk.
 
Originally Posted By: HYUNDAIFAN0001
The fact of the matter in the end is that almost nothing beats a 100% quality Brazilian carnauba wax to show off a great car-show shine. That's nothing revolutionary or new.

For that reason, those expensive carnauba's are used most often for car shows, which helps to keep many detailers in business (along with folks who don't mind spending $200-$400 about every other month to sustain the carnauba visual effects. Unfortunately...carnauba doesn't last very long, nor does it provide ideal protection against some of the newer environmental surface pollutants.

The "my shine beats your shine" or "look at how water beads up" subjective views don't really prove the actual protection of a car's finish. The illustrate the visual appearance for the most part and some of the coating results, but not the chemistry/physics behind auto surface protection.

Those are exactly the reasons why products (and there are many of them) like Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid were created - to overcome the limitations of plain carnauba wax.

As many have stated...it's much easier & quicker to apply, protects paint & clear-coat surfaces very well against harmful pollutants, lasts much longer between applications...all while being very cost-effective.

For the 98% of the public that wants to sustain a nice appearance with strong protection of a vehicle's exterior at a reasonable cost and without spending countless hours doing it...I have yet to see any product or actual evidence that other products achieve these requirements any better than Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid.

Fact is you don't sustain market share for decades in an industry with such numerous products offered, unless you have proven products that consumers want & prefer.

For the other 2% of folks obsessed with their vehicle's appearance (and for expensive and classic car owners, as well as a few of us that simply enjoy the detailing experience) - paying a detailer to do the work and/or using alternative products that make folks happy is likely the way to go.

I'm in that last 2%, as are many of the folks who have posted in this and other threads on detailing - I actually enjoy doing detailing tasks on our vehicles, and welcome the nice appearance that comes from it. Every vehicle we have owned has been sustained with good car care. I don't mind spending a couple hours doing things the right way as well. I also leverage using proven products and processes (DA polisher, polisher pads, quality car wash products, professional clay bar, polishing products, glaze products, "sealant waxes", detailing spray waxes, etc.). I also know I am not alone with that enjoyment and passion.

Congrats to those who take the time, make the effort, and follow their passions in detailing - the various pix show off your hard work and the great results.

If someone ever finds something that beat's Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid for that portion/step of detailing...and can prove it...I'll be the first to buy it.

Until then...the contrarian noise will probably just continue.



That's just your option. You want people to prove something is better than the Meguiar', why don't you prove it is better than S100 and P21S and show us you are not just some fan boy blowing smoke up our backsides.
 
Originally Posted By: Warstud
The same two instigators are gonna get this thread locked too.

Sounds like that's a goal for those two...
Originally Posted By: Trav
That's just your option. You want people to prove something is better than the Meguiar', why don't you prove it is better than S100 and P21S and show us you are not just some fan boy blowing smoke up our backsides.

S100 and P215 are actually pretty good products...harder to use apply than Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid...and don't last as long...but pretty good products.

People keep bringing up different products using different ways to compare. The Meguiar's conversation and comparison criteria have been consistent.

The naysayers are comparing apples to oranges...and having used more than 15 products (including those you named) for comparison...it's already proven here. There are also countless comparisons online showing it, as well as numerous ratings agreeing...plenty of people get it...but a few don't...but that's OK.

No one has disproved the original poster's statements, and people will believe what they want.
 
Originally Posted By: TheLawnRanger
I've noticed that no matter what wax you use, it seems to help if your detailing a classic sports car instead of the old daily driver.

Not to mention a brand new vehicle that's getting properly detailed right at the beginning of ownership.
 
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
See, I somehow knew you weren't laying Duragloss on them.
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Yeah, these cars deserve the good stuff, but many "regular" cars and daily drivers often will get duragloss at my shop.
 
I know what you mean. It's why my Q7 gets Griot's Poly Wax instead of Pinnacle Souveran - it would be a waste to use the Pinnacle on a car that sits outside for most of it's life. It's also white so it doesn't matter much what it gets waxed with from a visual standpoint. Might be a good candidate for NuFinish, eh?
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Maybe when I pick up a Turbo or 993 I'll have another garage queen that's worthy of Pinnacle.
 
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I know what you mean. It's why my Q7 gets Griot's Poly Wax instead of Pinnacle Souveran - it would be a waste to use the Pinnacle on a car that sits outside for most of it's life. It's also white so it doesn't matter much what it gets waxed with from a visual standpoint. Might be a good candidate for NuFinish, eh?
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Maybe when I pick up a Turbo or 993 I'll have another garage queen that's worthy of Pinnacle.

Yeah...that's indeed some top end stuff - they're targeting car show vehicles only. I did see a 2005 Ferarri just 2 weeks ago at a local car show where the owner told me he had it detailed using this product - it's impressive stuff. The owner said he paid "his guy" $550 to have it professional detailed - he gets it done 3 times per year (he said). Let's see...at 4-5 details per year (based on how long Pinnacle Souveran lasts)...that's uh...$$$...guess if you own a classic Ferrari...

Pinnacle Souveran Key Features:
Butter-like consistency applies easily
Incredible depth and mirror-like shine
Can be layered
Haze and streak resistant
No chalky haze, wipes off wet
Lasts 2-3 months

Of course for $11.85 per ounce...it better be worth it!

Maybe I'll buy a $95.00 8oz. jar and use it on the wife's 2013 Honda Accord...just to tick some people here off.
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Then again...I'd hate to screw up that beautiful Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid finish already on there...
 
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I know what you mean. It's why my Q7 gets Griot's Poly Wax instead of Pinnacle Souveran - it would be a waste to use the Pinnacle on a car that sits outside for most of it's life. It's also white so it doesn't matter much what it gets waxed with from a visual standpoint. Might be a good candidate for NuFinish, eh?
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Maybe when I pick up a Turbo or 993 I'll have another garage queen that's worthy of Pinnacle.

That Griots Poly Wax is some seriously good stuff. Threw some on this Honda and looks great, and was surprised just how long it lasted.

 
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