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The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a great man. Like any person of great fame, many of his failings, as well as his successes, are well known. I have not yet met a perfect man, but how can I disagree with the following?

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I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.'
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
I have a dream today.
 
Originally Posted By: Stelth
The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a great man. Like any person of great fame, many of his failings, as well as his successes, are well known. I have not yet met a perfect man, but how can I disagree with the following?

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.


Agree 100%. Which is why I was very disappointed that on TV this AM they were still swooning over the President's color, after giving the whole bit on MLK. IMO these are divergent points, and not in alignment with Dr. King's dream.
 
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Originally Posted By: Stelth
The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a great man. Like any person of great fame, many of his failings, as well as his successes, are well known. I have not yet met a perfect man, but how can I disagree with the following?

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.


Agree 100%. Which is why I was very disappointed that on TV this AM they were still swooning over the President's color, after giving the whole bit on MLK. IMO these are divergent points, and not in alignment with Dr. King's dream.



'Affirmative Action' programs (race, gender, ethnicity used for jobs, school admission etc...) are an affront to Dr. King's 'dream'.
 
I am at work with all the other pasty whites. I dont understand why this is not a recognised National Holiday in NH.
Happy MLKjr day all the same guys
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Stelth
The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a great man. Like any person of great fame, many of his failings, as well as his successes, are well known. I have not yet met a perfect man, but how can I disagree with the following?

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.


Agree 100%. Which is why I was very disappointed that on TV this AM they were still swooning over the President's color, after giving the whole bit on MLK. IMO these are divergent points, and not in alignment with Dr. King's dream.



'Affirmative Action' programs (race, gender, ethnicity used for jobs, school admission etc...) are an affront to Dr. King's 'dream'.


I agree. I suppose the need is an alignment to some of the tenets coming from some of the older authors. Who was it, Booker T Washington that made the comments of the necessity of good education, learning a trade, and being clean, presentable and sufficiently intelligent to fit into society and be accepted (Maybe Im thinking of another author, but on the tip of my tongue, Up From Slavery comes to mind).

Timeless basis for how to "win". And all aligned with how does one prove character, value and functionality in society. Where in King's words, "content of their character" comes in.

These days we have the ghetto thugs, the heavily tattooed "artist" type, the illegal workers not caring to even speak the local tongue, the druggies, the obese trailer trash... A selection from all groups and types of people, which all undermine themselves and their racial/social affiliation.

All of whom in their dissociation from the mainstream and association with functional society, do themselves a disservice. And then when the offspring and ramifications of their actions become burdened upon society and cannot function, the handouts abound.

I think the affirmative action and all these things are highly divergent from King and others' viewpoints that I respect (which isnt all from any camp).
 
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'Affirmative Action' programs (race, gender, ethnicity used for jobs, school admission etc...) are an affront to Dr. King's 'dream'.


^^This. I agree with you pbm 200%.
 
I am not one to celebrate MLK Day nor do I feel he was a great man. In his major speeches he mentions character and how significant that is to the value of a man. In this of course I agree with him....and also apply it to the man himself. That is why I do not partake. My opinion.
 
pbm .

'Affirmative Action' programs (race, gender, ethnicity used for jobs, school admission etc...) are an affront to Dr. King's 'dream'.

It only works one way.
 
Great quotes, but the man himself fell far from his ideals. At least he tried.

We're all human, but to see him deified is a bit offensive IMO in light of his actual behavior.
 
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Originally Posted By: Stelth
The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a great man. Like any person of great fame, many of his failings, as well as his successes, are well known. I have not yet met a perfect man, but how can I disagree with the following?

Quote:

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.


Agree 100%. Which is why I was very disappointed that on TV this AM they were still swooning over the President's color, after giving the whole bit on MLK. IMO these are divergent points, and not in alignment with Dr. King's dream.



'Affirmative Action' programs (race, gender, ethnicity used for jobs, school admission etc...) are an affront to Dr. King's 'dream'.


That's because the civil rights leaders and the programs they get passed are explained and worded reasonably/sensibly to make it an easy sell, but they're not really intended to be reasonable. Of course they're never going to come out and admit they really want preferential treatment nor will they ever admit their programs are giving them preferential treatment. They'll always play the victim and be the squeaky wheel that gets more oil. I think that goes for most all programs and new laws passed since the late 50's that in practice just give one group an insidious an unfair advantage at the expense of another.
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That's because the civil rights leaders and the programs they get passed are explained and worded reasonably/sensibly to make it an easy sell, but they're not really intended to be reasonable. Of course they're never going to come out and admit they really want preferential treatment nor will they ever admit their programs are giving them preferential treatment. They'll always play the victim and be the squeaky wheel that gets more oil. I think that goes for most all programs and new laws passed since the late 50's that in practice just give one group an insidious an unfair advantage at the expense of another.
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It is routinely asserted as established fact that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 represented a major turning point in the fortunes of black employment seekers. Today’s so-called civil-rights spokesmen have a vested interest in perpetuating the idea that political solutions are always the most desirable and effective. But as Thomas Sowell points out, black employment was improving before 1964: “In the period from 1954 to 1964, for example, the number of blacks in professional, technical, and similar high-level positions more than doubled. In other kinds of occupations, the advance of blacks was even greater during the 1940s–when there was little or no civil rights policy–than during the 1950s when the civil rights revolution was in its heyday.” He also notes that the increase in the number of blacks in professional and technical occupations in the two years following passage of the 1964 Act was actually less than in the year from 1961 to 1962.1

Similar trends are evident in employment among Hispanics and Asians. “The income of Mexican Americans,” Sowell explains, “rose relative to that of non-Hispanic whites between 1959 and 1969 (after the Civil Rights Act), but no more so than from 1949 to 1959 (before the Act).” The Japanese in America were discriminated against so badly that 120,000 of them were interned in relocation camps during World War II; yet by 1959, Japanese-American households had equaled those of whites in income, and by 1969 they were earning one-third more. Chinese Americans overtook whites in income five years before the 1964 Act.

http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/race-inequality-and-the-market#ixzz2IeS2CyjL

Virtually everything that is put out by the media on race and "inequality" is flat wrong.
 
Well when you have a victim culture, its easy to put it out and get buyers... The boob tube tells them so... It must be right.
 
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Well when you have a victim culture, its easy to put it out and get buyers... The boob tube tells them so... It must be right.



Exactly.


Unfortunately the USA is doomed in so many ways.

We are a divided country and this has been a deliberately calculated plan.

The experiment is over, it actually succeeded for a while, but once the "multicultural and multiethnic" assault was initiated it wouldn't be long before the experiment had to fail.

You can't have a "nation" when you have many races and cultures battling for their God given rights to determine their destiny.
 
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You can't have a "nation" when you have many races and cultures battling for their God given rights to determine their destiny.

Race is a genetic trait that has nothing to do with behavior. There is no reason for "many races" to "battle". Do people with blue and green eyes have to "battle"?

It's just as arbitrary.
 
Sometimes I wonder how my life would have turned out if I was 100% black and not Caucasian with blue eyes...

Would I be in the same place today ?
 
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