I have nothing good to add to the conversation but it's funny how some portions of the country have certain oils and some don't. For instance, Adv. Auto had havoline synthetic a few years ago but doesn't now. Nor does Wal Mart, Orielly's, Autozone, Pep Boys, Napa or anywhere else. So I've never seen the 'new' Deposit Sheild Havoline Synthetic bottles in real life, just on their website. Anyways...